first i have to say i have an eye disease where my corneas arnt shaped correctly so light goin through them doesnt bend correctly. i say that to tell you i was sighting in my iron sighted ml today and it took me a ton of shots to get it close. im shootin about 1 inch low and left at 50. not positive about that cause when i look at the sights i get that snowflake look off of them cause of my eyes so its hard to really aim at the same spot everytime even though i was benched off. im ocd so it kills me its not 2 inches high at 50 but ive done the best i can. shoulder feels like mush tonight. so if i can get one in to 50 shes in alot of trouble. lol.