Another Social Media "Star" Caught

[Hatchet Jack]

I’ve watched a lot of Martin Chagnovich shed hunting videos

On purpose?

 

[mostlybirch]

I watched two guys lay into a herd of bucks a few years ago in Wyoming from cross canyon. There were at least 4 hit and probably 5. They were shooting for probably 15 minutes must have gone through 20-30 rounds. I called it in and the warden hiked out there and met me. We both looked for those two wounded bucks for hours and couldn’t find them; you could tell she was incredibly invested and we each put in a couple miles zig zagging through brush looking for the wounded bucks. Never did find them or enough evidence but she tore those hunters a new one and they were sweating watching us look for blood and tracks.

I think it depends on who you get ahold of and how busy they are with other calls.

Good on you sir.

 

[Scoot]

#4 for black ovis

Please elaborate

 

[NDGuy]

 

[spike camp]

On purpose?

I like big browns, I can not lie.

 

[MuleyFever]

This thread makes me sad for hunting.

 

[TheTone]

Several years ago I posted here on Rokslide that I would no longer be supporting Black Ovis due to affiliation with Muley Freak and I still stand by that declaration. They will never see another dollar from me regardless of what they do now. Apparently not enough other people feel the same way because they continue to sell the MF brand. At this point I don't think anything will change via social media backlash. All these insta-poachers have to do is weather the legal and SM storms until people forget or move on to the next story at which point they will continue their shady "business" as usual.

Often these companies seem to have people in marketing and social media roles that are friends with the poachers thus why the partnerships never go away. I want to say MF was actually running many of his sponsors social media accounts thus why he was featured so prominently and never went away

It’s also fairly well known many of these people will hire firms to help scrub the internet of news articles related to their cases to make it seem they’re clean. I know of a couple of them where finding past crimes are super difficult, if not impossible to find where as 10-15 years ago you could find them

 

[UTJL]

Please elaborate

Black ovis continues to carry muley freak products even after they’ve been convicted. Like the previous posters I quit purchasing from them because of this.

 

[NDGuy]

Black ovis continues to carry muley freak products even after they’ve been convicted. Like the previous posters I quit purchasing from them because of this.

Had no idea but will make sure to avoid them in the future now.

 

[mtwarden]

A little off topic, but........

What helps turn this tide, in your opinion? I live in an area where this is certainly the reality, and some areas I would say are probably dangerous for our local wardens to operate alone.

More tips from the public? Simply more staffing? Just something I've been curious about

Certainly more tips would be helpful. I would say the majority of our biggest cases started with a tip.

I can’t speak for all states, but would guess that most states could use a few more wardens. Montana has also invested in investigators; wardens who focus all their efforts into bigger, more heinous crimes. I know other states have, but guessing not all. This has certainly helped us.

One other thing Montana did was enact a wildlife felony. The criteria is set pretty high to meet this violation and is reserved for the worse. We still have plenty of poaching, but the fact that you could serve time, I think has at least made folks thinking twice before pulling the trigger.

 

[Scoot]

Black ovis continues to carry muley freak products even after they’ve been convicted. Like the previous posters I quit purchasing from them because of this.

Dang that's too bad. I liked using their services. I won't anymore, however. Thanks for the info and heads up.

 

[PORK]

It’s honestly embarrassing how these guys represent Utah, we’re not all like that.

definitely in the minority though! Keep up the good fight

 

[woods89]

Certainly more tips would be helpful. I would say the majority of our biggest cases started with a tip.

I can’t speak for all states, but would guess that most states could use a few more wardens. Montana has also invested in investigators; wardens who focus all their efforts into bigger, more heinous crimes. I know other states have, but guessing not all. This has certainly helped us.

One other thing Montana did was enact a wildlife felony. The criteria is set pretty high to meet this violation and is reserved for the worse. We still have plenty of poaching, but the fact that you could serve time, I think has at least made folks thinking twice before pulling the trigger.

That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate your insights!

 

[wayoh22]

Here's a list of his sponsors.

 

[mostlybirch]

Use code "douchebag" and get 10% off alpha-brain testosterone-boosting hunting supplements

 

[idig4au]

Here's a list of his sponsors.

Apart from crispi boots, nothing I would ever consider buying.

 

[TripleJ]

Willfully and intentionally breaking game laws to make a profit through social media is absolutely unacceptable and should be punished as such. Forfeiture of weapons, equipment, vehicles etc. is warranted in my opinion. After a conviction, I feel like anything used to earn to earn that profit in such cases should no longer be yours. They most definitely shouldn't be getting sponsored with free gear to continue pimping our wildlife for revenue.

Black Ovis/Camofire joined my do-not-buy-from list a few years back because of the Muley Freak thing. I used to spend a lot of money with them too. I sent them an email at the time and they never responded, that was enough for me. I don't know how many more of us need to make our voices heard, but it hasn't made a difference yet.

 

[mtwarden]

Apart from crispi boots, nothing I would ever consider buying.

Agreed; probably worth spending 5 minutes and sending Crispi an email

 

[Reburn]

Willfully and intentionally breaking game laws to make a profit through social media is absolutely unacceptable and should be punished as such. Forfeiture of weapons, equipment, vehicles etc. is warranted in my opinion. After a conviction, I feel like anything used to earn to earn that profit in such cases should no longer be yours. They most definitely shouldn't be getting sponsored with free gear to continue pimping our wildlife for revenue.

Its quite the opposite unfortunately.
Those guys get up in front of the judge and cry about this is how they feed their kids and they cant take their hunting rights away.
Sadly enough it works and they get a light slap on the wrist usually allowing their felony to be plead down to a misdemeanour.

 

[SuperDUECE22]

I’ve watched a lot of Martin Chagnovich shed hunting videos, and every time that Conner guy was on there, he always gave the creepiest vibe.

Is this for real? People actually watch "shed hunting videos". How board must some people be