All things .308 Win

[CaribooBC]

Call me a FUDD, but I have just come into the 308 world from being a lifetime 30-06 hunter. Shot many deer with the ole 06, but was able to get a deal on a CZ557 Ranger in 308…. Shoots a bit better than my 06, with less recoil and I like the shorter action. No need for any of them new fandangled CM thingies.

 

[Lonewolf72]

Correct. Everyone that takes field shooting seriously should have a bomb proof 308 setup that they never mess with. Everyone should have a 223, 6mm, and 308.

Maybe I missed it...what does that "bombproof 308 setup" look like for you @Formidilosus ? How would you set it up? Do you have a favorite 308 you use?

 

[dylanvb]

I have had a .308 for a while now, just been collecting brass and shooting whatever through it but I am actually going to try and do some load development for it starting this year. r700 SPS varmint. I was listening to the Vortex 10 minute talk from last Tuesday and they are talking abut Shell Tech NAS3 high pressure casings and found it a very interesting discussion. I am curious if any one on here has had a chance to play with those cases yet and what their results are? Satisfied dissatisfied etc. For the price I am very interested in buying these cases and giving them a shot but also since its newer information to me want some confirmation.

 

[Formidilosus]

Maybe I missed it...what does that "bombproof 308 setup" look like for you @Formidilosus ? How would you set it up? Do you have a favorite 308 you use?

Ha!

Well, that depends. In general very reliable action and trigger- Tikka, MRC. 18’ish inch barrel- light to light medium weight. Suppressed- OTB for me. Pic rings and rail, though with a Tikka the UM or Sportsmatch are good. A 3-9x SWFA, or fixed 10x scope. The fixed 6x SWFA is good if it is more for true hunting use- for all around hunting and range use out west I may slightly prefer a fixed 10x.


This one is a T3, 20” barrel, Rokstock, suppressed, SWFA 10x. It has muzzle forward can and you can see how long it gets.



Currently my main one is an MRC M70 clone 18”, in a wood ROKStok and SWFA 3-9x.


Top one is the Woodstock 308, the bottom is factory Marshall in 6cm.



My homies MRC in 308win in the left setup the same- fixed 10x, US OG suppresor.

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

Ha!

Well, that depends. In general very reliable action and trigger- Tikka, MRC. 18’ish inch barrel- light to light medium weight. Suppressed- OTB for me. Pic rings and rail, though with a Tikka the UM or Sportsmatch are good. A 3-9x SWFA, or fixed 10x scope. The fixed 6x SWFA is good if it is more for true hunting use- for all around hunting and range use out west I may slightly prefer a fixed 10x.


This one is a T3, 20” barrel, Rokstock, suppressed, SWFA 10x. It has muzzle forward can and you can see how long it gets.
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Currently my main one is an MRC M70 clone 18”, in a wood ROKStok and SWFA 3-9x.


Top one is the Woodstock 308, the bottom is factory Marshall in 6cm.
View attachment 1002457


My homies MRC in 308win in the left setup the same- fixed 10x, US OG suppresor.
View attachment 1002460

Are you guys still shooting a lot of animals these days with .308? I know everybody is on the 6 and 22 train now.

 

[bnewt3]

Are you guys still shooting a lot of animals these days with .308? I know everybody is on the 6 and 22 train now.

Its my hunting rifle, deer back east and its what ill take to WY when i get enough points for an elk tag.

 

[Hondo64d]

Are you guys still shooting a lot of animals these days with .308? I know everybody is on the 6 and 22 train now.

Pig was shot with 178gr ELD-x, everything else with 168gr TMKs.

John

 

[Formidilosus]

Are you guys still shooting a lot of animals these days with .308? I know everybody is on the 6 and 22 train now.

Oh yeah. Not as many as at one time, but several a year.

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

Oh yeah. Not as many as at one time, but several a year.

Right on. I did this year as well.

 

[PKR]

Nilgai at 366
18”
Hornady Superformance 165 SST

 

[Lonewolf72]

Ha!

Well, that depends. In general very reliable action and trigger- Tikka, MRC. 18’ish inch barrel- light to light medium weight. Suppressed- OTB for me. Pic rings and rail, though with a Tikka the UM or Sportsmatch are good. A 3-9x SWFA, or fixed 10x scope. The fixed 6x SWFA is good if it is more for true hunting use- for all around hunting and range use out west I may slightly prefer a fixed 10x.


This one is a T3, 20” barrel, Rokstock, suppressed, SWFA 10x. It has muzzle forward can and you can see how long it gets.
View attachment 1002449


Currently my main one is an MRC M70 clone 18”, in a wood ROKStok and SWFA 3-9x.


Top one is the Woodstock 308, the bottom is factory Marshall in 6cm.
View attachment 1002457


My homies MRC in 308win in the left setup the same- fixed 10x, US OG suppresor.
View attachment 1002460

Good looking rifles @Formidilosus ! Thank you for indulging me (us).

For pure shooting, the heavier the better. 12-13lbs however makes a shootable gun.

I should have guessed you would suggest some combination of Tikka T3x Lite/ MRC Marshall and SWFA/ Maven, etc. I think I got my wires crossed about setup for a bombproof 308 from Post #1,738 from "The Shoot2Hunt Podcast" thread when you were suggesting a heavier 12-13 pounds as an optimal overall weight. What I didn't pickup on was that your recommendation was based on a member asking about setup for an unsuppresed/unbraked 308.

I was wondering how you would get to that heavier weight, given your normal suggestions, since my T3x/SWFA/Rokstok/suppressor comes in under 10 pounds. I was thinking I would have to go with a heavier barrel and stock combination like a T3x CTR and KRG Bravo for my do-all 308. But I would personally hate to carry a 12-13 pound rifle all day, and prefer your above suggestions for any rifle I plan to carry very far. Fortunately, I live in a state that allows my suppressors!

 

[Lonewolf72]

The current and hopefully "bombproof" setup I will be experimenting with is a Mauser M12 Impact in 308 Win. with a 20" barrel. I have a Trijicon Credo 3-9x40mm scope mounted via EGW rings and Burris 2-piece picatinny bases. It's crowned with an AB A-10 7.62 suppressor. The whole package comes in around 8lbs 15oz.

@Formidilosus ...do you have any experience with the Mauser M12?

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus ...do you have any experience with the Mauser M12?

Nothing major, but I would expect it to be a good rifle. Keep updated with how it does.

 

[Formidilosus]

Good looking rifles @Formidilosus ! Thank you for indulging me (us).


I should have guessed you would suggest some combination of Tikka T3x Lite/ MRC Marshall and SWFA/ Maven, etc. I think I got my wires crossed about setup for a bombproof 308 from Post #1,738 from "The Shoot2Hunt Podcast" thread when you were suggesting a heavier 12-13 pounds as an optimal overall weight. What I didn't pickup on was that your recommendation was based on a member asking about setup for an unsuppresed/unbraked 308.

I was wondering how you would get to that heavier weight, given your normal suggestions, since my T3x/SWFA/Rokstok/suppressor comes in under 10 pounds. I was thinking I would have to go with a heavier barrel and stock combination like a T3x CTR and KRG Bravo for my do-all 308. But I would personally hate to carry a 12-13 pound rifle all day, and prefer your above suggestions for any rifle I plan to carry very far. Fortunately, I live in a state that allows my suppressors!

Oh yeah. The heavier rifles are for if unsuppressed. I prefer a 8.5-10lb setup for my uses with a 308.

 

[vonb]

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The current and hopefully "bombproof" setup I will be experimenting with is a Mauser M12 Impact in 308 Win. with a 20" barrel. I have a Trijicon Credo 3-9x40mm scope mounted via EGW rings and Burris 2-piece picatinny bases. It's crowned with an AB A-10 7.62 suppressor. The whole package comes in around 8lbs 15oz.

@Formidilosus ...do you have any experience with the Mauser M12?

45.6 gr Varget, Nosler 165 BT, Win Brass and a CCI 200 will shoot one hole groups. I have the same gun and it shoots with any custom.

 

[Lonewolf72]

45.6 gr Varget, Nosler 165 BT, Win Brass and a CCI 200 will shoot one hole groups. I have the same gun and it shoots with any custom.

Thank you for that...I'll "give it a shot"!

My brother also has an M12. His rifle stacks them in there with cheap Norma Whitetail (150gr). Unfortunately, I had some difficulties when I had my rifle out. Nothing was grouping for me. I need to take it apart, make sure the stock and barrel aren't touching, the lug is seating properly and everything is torqued together properly. I don't think it was the scope and I'm comfortable with my mounting process. But if I still have problems, I will be switching to one of my SWFAs before another trip to the range.

 

[Motown]

My kid bought a new Tikka laminate stainless threaded 308 last week and wanted to try the new Burris Fullfield illuminated 2.5-10. Mounted it up tonight in some Hawkins Featherweights and it only sits at 7 1/2 pounds. Should be a sweet setup.

 

[Lonewolf72]

Oh yeah. The heavier rifles are for if unsuppressed. I prefer a 8.5-10lb setup for my uses with a 308.

As it seems that your skill set, knowledge and training allows you to use sub 10-pound setups in 308 Win out to it's effective range and beyond, do you ever feel the need to use a heavier rifle chambered in 308 Win?

I'm kind of a "light is right" guy and prefer to keep my setups under 10 pounds. But I've found myself cycling through Tikka CTRs and a Varmint, then eyeballing something like a Sako TRG . I can't help but think that there is no practical "need" for a heavier rifle in most circumstances. I suppose it's just a "want" for me with no pragmatic application unless I was competing, trying to split hairs on a range or sitting in a static position likely doing something I wouldn't be doing in civilian status.

 

[vonb]

Thank you for that...I'll "give it a shot"!

My brother also has an M12. His rifle stacks them in there with cheap Norma Whitetail (150gr). Unfortunately, I had some difficulties when I had my rifle out. Nothing was grouping for me. I need to take it apart, make sure the stock and barrel aren't touching, the lug is seating properly and everything is torqued together properly. I don't think it was the scope and I'm comfortable with my mounting process. But if I still have problems, I will be switching to one of my SWFAs before another trip to the range.

Mine would not group when I got it. 4" groups @ 100 yards. I reached out to Mauser (Blaser Group) and they told me the torque specs for the stock is 53 in-lbs. Once I torqued the two stock screws, it all came together.

 

[Lonewolf72]

Mine would not group when I got it. 4" groups @ 100 yards. I reached out to Mauser (Blaser Group) and they told me the torque specs for the stock is 53 in-lbs. Once I torqued the two stock screws, it all came together.

Excellent information...I will try torquing it properly 1st.