Add a OBD2 scanner as critical equipment for Diesels

[HairyScandinavian]

Shops aren't a problem, dealerships are. I avoid dealers for a lot of reasons anyway.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Yup. Dealership would be the last place i would go

 

[Reburn]

Shops aren't a problem, dealerships are. I avoid dealers for a lot of reasons anyway.

Silly as it sounds I have decided to just send my trucks to a private shop instead of the dealership regardless of warranty. Its almost not worth the cost savings to deal with those theives.

 

[Fowl Play]

Shops aren't a problem, dealerships are. I avoid dealers for a lot of reasons anyway.

Not true in my experience, the EPA began a serious crackdown a couple years ago and started fining even little mom and pops shops hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many places near me won’t touch them for fear of that. Even though I live in a state with no emissions testing (Florida).

 

[Weldor]

Most if not all shops around here won't do a delete, they still do repairs on deleted though. All I know was when I bullet proofed my 06 , I nothing but problems after. Check engine lights ,turbo ,etc. Seemed like everytime the computer did it's thing it would throw a code especially under a load towing. Bought a 18 Cimmins and have not had any issues, but I sure would like to delete it though. Still under warranty so it's a no go.

 

[wyosteve]

Another issue is that if you try to trade a deleted truck the dealerships don’t/wont take them.

 

[ThorM465]

Not true in my experience, the EPA began a serious crackdown a couple years ago and started fining even little mom and pops shops hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many places near me won’t touch them for fear of that. Even though I live in a state with no emissions testing (Florida).

Another issue is that if you try to trade a deleted truck the dealerships don’t/wont take them.

Didn't Trump sign an executive order than ended the requirement for this nonsense.

If anyone's interested I have a like new EZYLINK V2 for sale. I had only listed it locally on fbook marketplace, but I'll get it listed here shortly.

 

[Steve300xcw]

All I know was when I bullet proofed my 06 , I nothing but problems after. Check engine lights ,turbo ,etc. Seemed like everytime the computer did it's thing it would throw a code especially under a load towing.

That just sounds like 6.0 problems to me

 

[Steve300xcw]

Most if not all shops around here won't do a delete,

If you call a shop and ask, of course they are going to say no. I think anymore, they are going to want to know you a lil bit before that conversation is had. I do not blame them for being selective

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Not true in my experience, the EPA began a serious crackdown a couple years ago and started fining even little mom and pops shops hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many places near me won’t touch them for fear of that. Even though I live in a state with no emissions testing (Florida).

That's for the deletes from what I understand, which has lately not been an issue with new administration. But let's be real nobody ever got fined for replacing a starter or radiator on a deleted truck.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Another issue is that if you try to trade a deleted truck the dealerships don’t/wont take them.

I've heard this but also talked to people who traded them in without issues, probably depends on the dealer. Lots of trade ins go straight to auction and they don't care.

 

[Weldor]

Most salesman don't a clue about what's under the hood. My electrician just bought a deleted 2020 Duramax from a dealer. A Chevy dealer.

 

[Savage99]

Anecdotal, but on 2 different trucks of friends and family they’ve had what looked like def issues and on the duramax, a fresh air filter fixed the issue (even though the filter was fairly new). The other was a Cummins and again a fresh air filter fixed the issue. In addition to the obdii reader I’d be carrying a spare air filter.


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[Beendare]

Didn't Trump sign an executive order than ended the requirement for this nonsense.

The way I understand it; Trump stopped the further increasing of emissions which according to Cummins would have added $20,000 to each vehicle in the future.

Currently according to the Trucking council, current diesel motors filters and with DEF going across a catalyst eliminates 99% of particulate and noxious gasses from diesels of the 1970's...but the Biden admin wanted to restrict that further at a ridiculous cost to consumers. The current admin said enough is enough and things will stay as they are....nothing about eliminating existing systems.

Emission systems are always going to be the achilles heel of these diesel trucks going forward. It's worth learning the little tricks to maintaining them.

 

[Nine Banger]

Do y'all know which one of these is affected by p2200 error?

I swapped out the one I'm pointing to with a generic Dorman version and I got a new code and it went into limp home mode and the dash said DEF sensor was affected and a new dash light came on in addition to the CEL. I put it back together with the oem one and all that mess went away but I still have the NoX code.

 

[fatbacks]

Is anyone having servicing issues since weight loss?

Our GM dealer will still service the weight loss trucks. A lot of them around here and they realized it was a lot of business they’d have to give up.


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[StuckInTheEast]

Do y'all know which one of these is affected by p2200 error?

I swapped out the one I'm pointing to with a generic Dorman version and I got a new code and it went into limp home mode and the dash said DEF sensor was affected and a new dash light came on in addition to the CEL. I put it back together with the oem one and all that mess went away but I still have the NoX code.

From many years of experience...dont buy anything from Dorman unless you have no other option 90% of their products are trash out of the box.

As to the OP...yes a decent scanner can get you out of a bind sometimes on newer diesels fir sure and should be part of your emergency kit...but as others have stated, it depends on the code/failure. Many times your just gonna be SOL. There are often initialization or verification procedures that need to be done even if you get lucky throwing parts at them.
A code for a sensor does not guarantee that sensor is the problem by any means though, so be cautious firing up the parts cannon hoping to fix it if you dont know what your doing.

As for weight loss...good luck. You can still find places or individuals that will do it but no one is gonna talk to you about on the phone. Its just not worth the risk. I get that it sucks to pay thousands for emmissions repairs, but it really sucks to hundreds of thousands in fines and make yourself a target for the feds. Our shop won't even discuss the matter, simply not worth the risk. Most any independent shop that does diesel work will still work on them after weightloss though. Unfortunately that and many other things can be issues at dealers. MANY dealer service departments are in bad shape. Their business model and the corporate red tape make it very difficult even for the few good ones out there. Id avoid a dealer for anything but warranty/recall work.

I wouldn't expect any big changes to legality or availability of delete items/programming any time soon.

 

[Nine Banger]

From many years of experience...dont buy anything from Dorman unless you have no other option 90% of their products are trash out of the box.

Thanks, I may take it to the dealer, its hard to know if I'm even messing with the right sensor.

Found better options, its a Bosch unit on there that I was taking off.