A pistol failure story…

[Formidilosus]

To me, it's less about the poundage of the pull and more the predictability of a more defined wall and a more crisp (crispier?) break.

A more defined wall and crisper break is exactly opposite of what a Glock trigger needs- unless dropping trigger weight low. A smooth rolling break with almost no defined wall is much better.

I fully support/buy in to the well done 19/2011 perspective and carry a staccato C more than any other gun and do understand its merits. That said, I do find value in striker and particularly DA/SA guns as well and frankly just enjoy shooting all of the above.

DA/SA I can understand.

Mostly just was curious on your perspective on partial cocked striker trigger systems vs fully cocked.

Fully cocked strikers with no external safety are pants on head retarded. Pull your mind out of the gun world a bit and just think about it clearly- it’s insane.

I agree with your statement for platforms that lack trigger safety mechanisms (looking at you 320) and do believe that a drop safe (and likely even non drop safe honestly) 19/2011 is likely the safest platform to achieve a good trigger pull.

There are lots of pistols that are safe to carry, etc. Not just 1911/2011’s. Though they are about the most foolproof.

 

[Formidilosus]

@rileybassman

I say all the above, as someone who carried a Glock with a true sub 1.5lb trigger with zero (0) take up that legitimately would cast shade on a USPSA open gun.

 

[rileybassman]

A more defined wall and crisper break is exactly opposite of what a Glock trigger needs- unless dropping trigger weight low. A smooth rolling break with almost no defined wall is much better.





DA/SA I can understand.




Fully cocked strikers with no external safety are pants on head retarded. Pull your mind out of the gun world a bit and just think about it clearly- it’s insane.



There are lots of pistols that are safe to carry, etc. Not just 1911/2011’s. Though they are about the most foolproof.

Thanks for your thoughts - appreciate it!

So, what I'm hearing is you would not recommend PDPs or M&P (like 95% cocked) or similar types of striker guns? Do two sears like an echelon etc. change the narrative for you?

Just generally curious what your opinions are on striker guns or if you only recommend SA or DA/SA?

 

[Formidilosus]

Thanks for your thoughts - appreciate it!

So, what I'm hearing is you would not recommend PDPs or M&P (like 95% cocked) or similar types of striker guns? Do two sears like an echelon etc. change the narrative for you?

Just generally curious what your opinions are on striker guns or if you only recommend SA or DA/SA?

Man I use them all. But, when I have a choice- I choose the best pistols. That very often isn’t a striker fired gun (because of what is available). The M&P with the thumb safety I would be more inclined to. I haven’t shot the Echelon enough to say.
The PDP is laughable as a carry gun. As a toy- why not just get a 2011 or CZ game gun?

But again- I don’t get the desire of most to shoot and use lessor pistols. Maybe because I have so much time and rounds on Glocks, M&P’s, Sig M17/18’s, Walter’s, CZ’s, etc. that they have lost the novelty to me. There is no real argument that a proper 1911/2011 is not bested by any gun from a user experience and performance standpoint. Now that there are $400 versions that work without much fuss- $700 Glocks seem pretty dumb.

 

[stan_wa]

There is no real argument that a proper 1911/2011 is not bested by any gun from a user experience and performance standpoint. Now that there are $400 versions that work without much fuss- $700 Glocks seem pretty dumb.

Is this a typo? im not sure what you mean by this. are you saying there is no argument that a 1911/2011 is bested by other platforms.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Is this a typo? im not sure what you mean by this. are you saying there is no argument that a 1911/2011 is bested by other platforms.

No, he used a double negative to say the opposite of that. A proper 1911/2011 beats all other platforms, in his august opinion.