A Personal Gripe

[180ls1]

I use got/get one when I am not sure where they stand. Kill is pretty on the nose and can turn people off (initial impressions matter a lot) and harvest is too PC.

 

[Quicksilver]

That and when people ask - did you catch any (insert any animal) this year?

I have coworkers that do this. I tell them I didn’t catch anything, but I did kill something!

Wild game is a renewable resource that we grow and manage. We do the same with trees and crops that we harvest. I dont see any issue with using the term for deer or elk.

When we talk about fawns we say we had a good or bad fawn crop. We harvest crops.

I wouldn’t say wild animals and trees are not the same category. A higher power is more in control than us people with the wild animals. Yes we have rules and statistics and try and do our best to manage things for the better. If we were in control of growing and harvesting wild animals, why do we let so much drought, wildfire, and winter kill happen? Seems a poor way to manage your crops with all that loss doesn’t it? Why do we let so many predators put such a dent in populations during birthing season? Doesn’t seem like a good way to tend your crops.



I’ll try and use the term “tagged” or “filled a tag” when I can.

 

[omicron1792]

I have coworkers that do this. I tell them I didn’t catch anything, but I did kill something!



I wouldn’t say wild animals and trees are not the same category. A higher power is more in control than us people with the wild animals. Yes we have rules and statistics and try and do our best to manage things for the better. If we were in control of growing and harvesting wild animals, why do we let so much drought, wildfire, and winter kill happen? Seems a poor way to manage your crops with all that loss doesn’t it? Why do we let so many predators put such a dent in populations during birthing season? Doesn’t seem like a good way to tend your crops.



I’ll try and use the term “tagged” or “filled a tag” when I can.

Seem like you using tagged and me using harvested are very very similar.

 

[svivian]

Technically not, unless you consider the animal your "crop" lol

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That is correct if being used as a noun maybe. if you scroll down and use it as a verb you'll see otherwise. Then if you keep scrolling there are even more options!

harvest

1. the time of year when crops are cut and collected from the fields, or the…

dictionary.cambridge.org

Edit: im not for or opposed to using the word just pointing out its not that simple.

 

[Quicksilver]

Seem like you using tagged and me using harvested are very very similar.

Intentions may be the same, wording is not Honestly harvested is not something that bothers me much, but it’s the least liked term right behind catch! It’s the guys on the gram that are ruining that term.

 

[Huntin Fool]

Technically not, unless you consider the animal your "crop" lol

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Harvest has multiple meanings, including the season when crops are ready to be gathered, the act of gathering crops, and the crops that are gathered:

• Season: The time of year when crops are ripe and ready to be collected.
  
  
• Activity: The act of gathering crops, plants, animals, or fish as food.
• It’s pretty simple lol

 

[SuperDUECE22]

Interesting.... you think a majority of people that say harvest are doing so because they are actually afraid of saying "KiLL"?

To me that's not as bad as people who say:
I'm running this pack or running this spotter or running that tripod

 

[Quicksilver]

Harvest has multiple meanings, including the season when crops are ready to be gathered, the act of gathering crops, and the crops that are gathered:

• Season: The time of year when crops are ripe and ready to be collected.
  
  
• Activity: The act of gathering crops, plants, animals, or fish as food.
• It’s pretty simple lol

You take your technicalities and leave

It’s like calling someone an asshole…may be correct but it upsets some people.

 

[Quicksilver]

Interesting.... you think a majority of people that say harvest are doing so because they are actually afraid of saying "KiLL"?

To me that's not as bad as people who say:
I'm running this pack or running this spotter or running that tripod

You mean you don’t put a leash on your pack and take it out for a run?

 

[MuleyFever]

If we were in control of growing and harvesting wild animals, why do we let so much drought, wildfire, and winter kill happen? Seems a poor way to manage your crops with all that loss doesn’t it? Why do we let so many predators put such a dent in populations during birthing season? Doesn’t seem like a good way to tend your crops.

We are not in control of growing anything. Mother nature can and will wipe us out at will. Game agencies and private landowners do a lot to mitigate those very things you list though. So by your example you have listed the things we actively do to grow and manage this renewable resource. Sure animals die from those things, you cannot eliminate them, but millions are spent to mitigate them. Habitat management is another thing we actively do to grow animal herds. Lots of time and money spend growing animals just so people can shoot them.

Drought - we spend a lot putting in water sources
Wildfire - lots of work is done to reseed and restore habitat
Winter kill - lots of states have feeding programs
Predators - lots of states have predator management programs

We cant remove these factors any more than a large rancher can keep 100% of his cows alive. That doesn't mean one isn't tending their crops.

 

[5811]

Am I the only one bothered when hunters say they "harvested" an animal?

We aren't farmers. We are hunters. We kill the animal and harvest the meat. Why are we so afraid to say the word kill?

I'm the other way on this. I think it is harvesting. We are taking something to eat it, well, I am anyway.

I think people that overuse "kill" are trying to make it something more than it is.

 

[Quicksilver]

We are not in control of growing anything. Mother nature can and will wipe us out at will. Game agencies and private landowners do a lot to mitigate those very things you list though. So by your example you have listed the things we actively do to grow and manage this renewable resource. Sure animals die from those things, you cannot eliminate them, but millions are spent to mitigate them. Habitat management is another thing we actively do to grow animal herds. Lots of time and money spend growing animals just so people can shoot them.

Drought - we spend a lot putting in water sources
Wildfire - lots of work is done to reseed and restore habitat
Winter kill - lots of states have feeding programs
Predators - lots of states have predator management programs

We cant remove these factors any more than a large rancher can keep 100% of his cows alive. That doesn't mean one isn't tending their crops.

You must live in a better state than me and I didn’t mean us humans just sit back and do nothing. There are certain states like you mentioned that without them and the private crowd putting in their part…numbers the following year would be pitiful. Generally states are more concerned about someone stepping off the trail on a flower than the correct way to manage forests or actually putting fish and wildlife finding to proper use. But we won’t even start on any of that…

 

[MuleyFever]

I'm the other way on this. I think it is harvesting. We are taking something to eat it, well, I am anyway.

I think people that overuse "kill" are trying to make it something more than it is.

While I dont use the term harvest, I agree that it is harvesting.

 

[svivian]

 

[Netherman]

I'm on the don't love it side. Especially when it feels forced and pandering. I'd be willing to bet outside of social media most are saying got, killed, dusted, assassinated, etc. But they know if they do the media police will kill, assassinate, dust, their account.

I'm in the got or shot camp.

 

[Burnsie]

"Kill" a fish, "Catch" a fish, "Harvest" a fish???

 

[NB7]

I hear farmers say they harvest their corn/wheat/beans
I don't hear farmers say they harvest their cattle/hogs/sheep
But obviously "slaughter" is a no-go for our world, lol.
I know it's a little too pc but the word harvest doesn't bother me in the grand scheme of things

 

[Wyobohunter]

It isn’t PC to use our language.

From the Oxford Dictionary of English.

harvest /ˈhɑːvɪst /
▸ noun the process or period of gathering in crops: farmers work longer hours during the harvest. ▫ the season's yield or crop: a poor harvest.

▫ a quantity of animals caught or killed for human use: a limited harvest of wild mink.

▫ the product or result of an action: in terms of science, Apollo yielded a meagre harvest.

▸ verb [with object] gather (a crop) as a harvest: after harvesting, most of the crop is stored in large buildings. ▫ catch or kill (animals) for human consumption: the quantity of squid harvested has risen.

▫ remove (cells, tissue, or an organ) from a person or animal for experiment or transplant.
▫ collect or obtain (a resource) for future use: the research teams are leading the way in identifying new ways of harvesting the sun's energy.

– DERIVATIVES harvestable adjective.
– ORIGIN Old English hærfest ‘autumn’, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch herfst and German Herbst, from an Indo-European root shared by Latin carpere ‘pluck’ and Greek karpos ‘fruit’.

 

[Wyobohunter]

I'm the other way on this. I think it is harvesting. We are taking something to eat it, well, I am anyway.

I think people that overuse "kill" are trying to make it something more than it is.

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Bonus points for abiding.

 

[butcherboy]

I use “got” and “kill” all the time. My whole life in fact. My BIL isn’t a hunter and he always asks me if I “caught” anything. Lol