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Hmm. Wonder if PBB will let me change my order to a 7.5
The 109s are a lot longer nosed than the 108s. I'm unsure at lower altitude and lower mv. I've only used 7.5tw.Will 8 twist stabilize the 109 properly, or would I need a 7.5?
Better a 6mm in the boiler room than a .30 in the guts but as a former young rodeo pro antlers can cause the same effect on a brain as a pretty girl that smells niceI’ve been a big bullet dude since I was old enough to handle 30-06 recoil but this forum/podcast has me rethinking things. So I built a 6 ARC for my 10 year old to hunt with this year. He shot a mule deer at 155 yards off a tripod with game changer bag. 108 ELDM impacting at 2300 FPS. First shot was BAD with “buck fever” shattering the rear leg and fragmenting into the guts. The buck stood there and my son calmed down so I asked him to put the second shot high in the neck. Perfect second shot dropped the deer dead right there. Exit hold about the size of a quarter.
I struggle getting both my young sons to shoot better. They practice regularly on property using field positions and shot timers and I make them bet candy on each shot to add extra stress. They kill does/cow elk just fine but half of the bucks they shoot are a rodeo.
Considering letting my son use the 6 ARC for a cow elk next year. He did fine this year with a 308 shooting SSTs, double lunged a cow at 255 yards but I’m tired of lugging that heavy 308 around. Their max engagement range is 300 yards which has the 108 ELDM impacting at 2080. Thoughts?
243 win 108 Berger elite hunter 40 yards whitetail doe facing me bullet entered chest left baseball size hole about 8 in deep no sign of bullet just fragments.Thank you sir.
I'd also like to thank Form for spreading the info and doing such a great job of educating the community.
Based on all the overwhelming evidence in some of these threads, and now my first hand experience, it's clear that bullets matter way more than headstamps. Hell, there's even an argument that some of these nasty little bullets cause too much destruction of tissue. Personally, I'd rather risk potentially losing a bit of meat rather than the whole animal by not doing enough.
Was 8” all the penetration that you got or was the main “hole” just 8” deep. I realize at 40 yards you would be stressing that bullet pretty hard but I would hope to get more than 8” of penetration243 win 108 Berger elite hunter 40 yards whitetail doe facing me bullet entered chest left baseball size hole about 8 in deep no sign of bullet just fragments.
8in is all I got never even popped the diaphragm.Was 8” all the penetration that you got or was the main “hole” just 8” deep. I realize at 40 yards you would be stressing that bullet pretty hard but I would hope to get more than 8” of penetration
Do it and keep the 300 yard max. You might be surprised.Considering letting my son use the 6 ARC for a cow elk next year. He did fine this year with a 308 shooting SSTs, double lunged a cow at 255 yards but I’m tired of lugging that heavy 308 around. Their max engagement range is 300 yards which has the 108 ELDM impacting at 2080. Thoughts?
2 years in a row. Hearing took a major hit. Brake thrown in trash.Not a 6 creed, but on my .223 bolt gun I have a brake since I don't have a can yet. I have never put ear plugs in when hunting because I hunt thick woods and stuff happens fast. I shot a deer last Monday with the .223 and it rocked my left ear. 2 days I couldn't hear well from it and I still have a slight ringing. Never again.