6 ARC ammunition

[CoMulies]

I literally just posted a 688 yard kill with a .243… there are mounds of evidence in this thread that 6mm will kill elk at extended ranges and you just keep digging in

 

[wabash503]

I literally just posted a 688 yard kill with a .243… there are mounds of evidence in this thread that 6mm will kill elk at extended ranges and you just keep digging in

I do, because I understand that you need a margin of error at those distances that no one wants to acknowledge is far greater with a 223 or 6 arc or even a 243.

You guys seen to think just because a few people have been successful at it, that it is the best thing out there, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

For every luck shot (and I stick by that characterization), there are many more instances of failure. You just didn't want acknowledge that. And that's fine, but for the random guy that reads this thread in the future, I want then to at least question this non sense.

There is far more evidence that this isn't a good idea. If you truly respect elk as a game animal, and you want to actually be an ethical hunter, than you would base your cartridge decision on what is best to give them a quick kill. And 223 and 6 arc at 600y is not it

And I am firm on that. Call it dug in if you'd like, but I've read a lot of the other things the posters on here have said in other threads. I'm confident they are speaking out of ignorance, and that comes from a greater experience and understanding than they have.

 

[Hnthrdr]

I do, because I understand that you need a margin of error at those distances that no one wants to acknowledge is far greater with a 223 or 6 arc or even a 243.

You guys seen to think just because a few people have been successful at it, that it is the best thing out there, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

For every luck shot (and I stick by that characterization), there are many more instances of failure. You just didn't want acknowledge that. And that's fine, but for the random guy that reads this thread in the future, I want then to at least question this non sense.

There is far more evidence that this isn't a good idea. If you truly respect elk as a game animal, and you want to actually be an ethical hunter, than you would base your cartridge decision on what is best to give them a quick kill. And 223 and 6 arc at 600y is not it

And I am firm on that. Call it dug in if you'd like, but I've read a lot of the other things the posters on here have said in other threads. I'm confident they are speaking out of ignorance, and that comes from a greater experience and understanding than they have.

Pretty wild assumptions man, there are a lot of guys on this forum shooting 1-5k rounds of ammo a year and doing some pretty incredible things with rifles at distance. I don’t have the time to currently practice as much as I would like so I self impose limits of 500 or less on live game. 90% of the time I hunt primitive weapons and am under 100 yards… yet it’s not group think to know that bullet designed to rapidly expand at 1800 fps will do that.
This whole assumption that people cannot be accurate at 600 yards and that a larger caliber with more recoil is necessary to account for margins of error is just telling on yourself. Sounds like You believe that because you can’t consistently make sub MOA hits on a 600 yard target. Also if the hits are marginal how is the larger caliber just magically making up for said marginal hits? And also if marginal hits with a larger caliber will still result in just wounding? How is that “ethical”

 

[amassi]

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[Tobe_B]

There once was a fudd from wabash.
A big elk he wanted to smash!
Into the field he went, his knowledge was trash.

1500 ftlbs is needed to slay!
The elk got shot 4 times that day.
And still managed to run away.
Because Barnes bullets are gay.

Listen. Some of us on here are reading through this forum while attempting to rock babies to sleep. The abrupt laughter from stuff like this just sets that back. So thanks for that.


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[HairyScandinavian]

I never could figure out this "margin of error" thing people like to throw out. How many 30 caliber TTSX does it take to kill an Elk with gut shots if it takes 4 in the vitals? I see it all the time, not just referring to you Wabash, like a 300 WM kills them if you shoot them in the toe with it? Gut shots are gut shots no matter the wallop, meat hits are meat hits no matter the wallop. At least with a fragmenting bullet rather than a bonded or copper you might get a fragment to sever an artery under the spine or something. Put any cartridge through the lungs and the animal dies PDQ, it's not that hard to imagine.