6 ARC ammunition

[wabash503]

Terrible bullet choice
Those ttsx were likely caliber sized


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We recovered them and they expanded 1.8x...and were just under the hide on the offside, so they did their job and dumped all their energy in the vitals. A 223 or 6 arc at those distances would just pencil through.

 

[wabash503]

Just pondering why you are so certain that 6arc wouldn’t kill an elk, as long as the projectile is kept above the minimum recommended velocity to expand? and why you assume that impact energy must be 1500 ft/lbs or greater to kill a slab sided ungulate? A well placed, violently disrupting bullet, with more than adequate penetration > 14” will kill anything in North America… or at least that has been my experience. But bottom line, shoot what you shoot well, shoot what you shoot a lot, and shoot what makes ya happy

Because I own a 6 arc, and I know the ballistics. And at the velocity that bullet drops to at 600y it's not going to expand enough.

I think the majority of this discussion is from people who don't know and who haven't actually shot an elk...but I'm here to tell you it won't work, not with the kind of predictability and reliability you need on an elk hunt. Otherwise, you will more than likely end up just wounding the animal, or make him suffer, and the bull probably won't be recovered. And like someone mentioned early on, have more respect for the game than that...as in be more ethical than that.

There is so much more to this 600y shot than anyone promoting a 223 or 6 arc at that distance understands here on this thread.

 

[roosiebull]

There's a saying... It's better to stay quiet and be thought of as a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Try to remember that next time, so you don't leave another word salad like this one.

The irony is awesome here

 

[MagnumHntr]

Why you gotta lie........ you know nothing about ballistics with this comment.

Because I own a 6 arc, and I know the ballistics. And at the velocity that bullet drops to at 600y it's not going to expand enough.

Are you saying every 6 ARC rifle out there has the exact same muzzle velocity?

 

[solarshooter]

Like I mentioned before I've seen them take 4 rounds of well place 308 TTSXs with 14-1500 ft-lbs on impact in the vitals and still keep trucking. There is no way a 223 or 6 arc, at the distances discussed is going to have better terminal performance than those 308 shots...it just won't happen. Period.

You're so close to getting it, yet so far....

You should really, really save yourself the breath and embarrassment and go scroll through the 223 and 6mm kill threads before engaging further on this topic. I'll make it really easy for you:

Post in thread '.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.'

Feb 15, 2023

Somebody around Page 140 said "No cheat sheet" but I say "Yes cheat sheet"


Page 1 thru 10: Lot of arguing, couple of pictures. Some urban legend type of stuff, I can see why somebody would abandon thread because it looks like it's going to be another 160 pages of memes and shitposts

Page 10 thru 40 though, it gets interesting with lots of pictures of dead things
Form kill pics
Many pics, pic, pic, pic, Moose scapula, 4 elk

PNWGator:
OP's wife shot a moose
A frigin moose, holy shit
I mean, if a chick can do it...

Other...

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Thread '6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game'

Oct 28, 2022

With the success of .223 and 6.5 threads on big game, thought I’d throw this one into the mix.

Show and detail your results harvesting big game (deer, bear, elk, moose, African game) using 6mm/.243 cartridges. Please detail bullet, MV, impact velocity, and whether hand load or factory ammo.

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That being said, 600yds is pushing it regardless of cartridge.

 

[roosiebull]

I thought it was just going to be a boring “eldx/eldm” suggestions, and almost didn’t open the thread, but I’m glad I did, it’s a fun read

 

[Hnthrdr]

Nice man, your from Ks? Well, I can tell you the air is a tad thinner up here at 9k ft. My rifle is pushing 108 eld-m’s at 2570 so plenty of muzzle velocity to take animals as far as I would shoot comfortably… but I tend to kill my elk with pointy sticks or bullets going around 1800 fps out the gate.

No one is saying that it doesn’t take skill to shoot 400,500, 600 or more yards. Obviously it takes considerable skill and practice to do that, hence why so many on this forum are dedicated to lower cost, lower recoiling highly reliable rifle set ups…. But carry on with your massive amount of assumptions from the flatlands of Kansas…

I think it would be best if you took some time to peruse the forum and familiarize yourself with the underlying principles and philosophy here… who knows may even learn something, I sure did a few years back!

 

[HairyScandinavian]

We recovered them and they expanded 1.8x...and were just under the hide on the offside, so they did their job and dumped all their energy in the vitals. A 223 or 6 arc at those distances would just pencil through.

You have this fantasy about how terminal ballistics work and basing all your arguments upon that fantasy.

Also, apparently your TTSX didn't do the job if you had to shoot it 4 freaking times in the vitals even though you claimed it had 1600 ft lbs energy at impact. Perhaps you should upgrade to a .223 with some good fragmenting projectiles... just a suggestion if you want to kill more efficiently. Read those threads above and learn, or don't, doesn't matter to me.

 

[justinspicher]

These CAN work BUT distance and shot placement are key. Practice practice practice with whatever round you are going to use. No room for error.

Isn’t this true with any caliber/platform?