6.5 Creedmoor/260 for Deer, Elk, and whatever else.....

[MTlan66]

6.5 Creedmoor, 143 eldx, 339 yards. He stumbled about 30 feet and then stood there wobbling around. I put an unnecessary second shot in his neck and he crumpled. No internal pictures, but they really didn’t look any different than all the other pictures we’ve seen on this thread. I hit mid shoulder at a downward angle. Bullet had heavily expanded by the time it was through the shoulder, and there was nothing but some fragments on the lower rib cage on the offside. Nothing made it through the off hide.
No complaints!

 

[Pescetism]

Average sized whitetail doe quartering to - 129 gr ABLR - impact around 2,700 fps - entrance 1.5" exit .5". Ran 60 yards with no easily visible blood trail and very little blood where she dropped.

 

[General RE LEE]

6.5 Creedmoor, 143 eldx, 339 yards. He stumbled about 30 feet and then stood there wobbling around. I put an unnecessary second shot in his neck and he crumpled. No internal pictures, but they really didn’t look any different than all the other pictures we’ve seen on this thread. I hit mid shoulder at a downward angle. Bullet had heavily expanded by the time it was through the shoulder, and there was nothing but some fragments on the lower rib cage on the offside. Nothing made it through the off hide.
No complaints!View attachment 973069

How well does that brake tame the recoil? Spot your impacts?

 

[MTlan66]

How well does that brake tame the recoil? Spot your impacts?

Recoil is very mild. I’m a little hit and miss on spotting impacts, but I do blame a lot of of that on the cheap vortex scope. SFP 4x-16x, with no dialing capabilities, so anything with a hold over, I’m running it full power…
Hoping to put a suppressor on it in the future, but I would like a better scope before that. The budget has not yet allowed for either.
The break is a Heartbreaker from Timber Creek.

 

[WJS23]

Last week in Maine my dad shot both of these with his 6.5 creed using nosler whitetail country 140 gr both deer were inside of 100 yards and DRT

 

[HuntHarder]

645 yards, 2050 fps impact. 6.5cm 130 gr VLD-H. Dropped on the impact, 0.0 steps. Shot prone off of bipod. Hiked 10ish miles, some in fresh snow/ ice, never fell on my gun. After the shot, I looked and I shot on 18x. Zero was perfect after the airlines had their way with my case.

 

[Ajsomp]

Guys shooting factory ammo - what are you seeing out of 18-20” tikkas? I just acquired a 6.5 creed on a screaming deal locally and while I’m tempted to rebarrel it to 6 creed, I’m wondering if I don’t just chop and thread the 6.5 down and shoot it.

For reference my 20” PRC is shooting factory around 2730. I’d expect closer to 2500 out of creed but maybe not?

 

[NDHUNTER24]

Small sample size but my tikka 20" with factory hornady eldx is 2600. I haven't chrono'd anything else yet

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[HuntHarder]

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Guys shooting factory ammo - what are you seeing out of 18-20” tikkas? I just acquired a 6.5 creed on a screaming deal locally and while I’m tempted to rebarrel it to 6 creed, I’m wondering if I don’t just chop and thread the 6.5 down and shoot it.

For reference my 20” PRC is shooting factory around 2730. I’d expect closer to 2500 out of creed but maybe not?

Bullet weight matters. My 20" 6.5cm is shooting 130's @ 2890 fps. Gets me to 700-750 yards depending on DA

 

[frasier2122]

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Bullet weight matters. My 20" 6.5cm is shooting 130's @ 2890 fps. Gets me to 700-750 yards depending on DA

Does "DA" stand for density altitude? Is that more influential on ballistics than temp / humidity?

 

[pattimusprime22]

Guys shooting factory ammo - what are you seeing out of 18-20” tikkas? I just acquired a 6.5 creed on a screaming deal locally and while I’m tempted to rebarrel it to 6 creed, I’m wondering if I don’t just chop and thread the 6.5 down and shoot it.

For reference my 20” PRC is shooting factory around 2730. I’d expect closer to 2500 out of creed but maybe not?

My tikka 20" barrel is shooting the factory 143 eldx at 2560

 

[Ajsomp]

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Bullet weight matters. My 20" 6.5cm is shooting 130's @ 2890 fps. Gets me to 700-750 yards depending on DA

You’re right- I should be more specific. 140-147 grain bullets. I don’t want to reload - just something to get to 600 yards. Just trying to gauge if the extra 2” of barrel will translate into any extended performance. I plan to suppress it - I know what an 18” 6creed gets me but that will cost me another $4-500 for a barrel

 

[nm.otter]

Does "DA" stand for density altitude? Is that more influential on ballistics than temp / humidity?

Correct: DA = Density Altitude, primarily from temp and station pressure. Humidity affects it, but nowhere near as much.

 

[Shadowbandd]

Guys shooting factory ammo - what are you seeing out of 18-20” tikkas? I just acquired a 6.5 creed on a screaming deal locally and while I’m tempted to rebarrel it to 6 creed, I’m wondering if I don’t just chop and thread the 6.5 down and shoot it.

For reference my 20” PRC is shooting factory around 2730. I’d expect closer to 2500 out of creed but maybe not?

I’m seeing around 2510 with factory hornady 140 ELDM out of my 18” T3X.
2580 with AAC 140 BTHP.
I was in the same boat and decided to just chop and thread my 6.5 and spend the money on ammo, I don’t regret it.

 

[24valve]

Does "DA" stand for density altitude? Is that more influential on ballistics than temp / humidity?

Density altitude is a single number that takes into account temp, pressure, and humidity, as opposed to three separate inputs.

DA can also be determined in the field with a simple paper chart, which can be an invaluable advantage to not reliant on electronics.

Take a look at this thread and the other threads mentioned within it if you want to learn more:

Thread 'Quick Field Methods For Determining Density Altitude.'

Aug 4, 2024

We had an informative discussion going in one of @Ucsdryders threads and I wanted to move it to its own space.

@Formidilosus and @Marbles shared some good information and I’m wondering if you guys could generalize how you handle long range ballistics factoring in environmental conditions at different altitudes.

I’ve found that by the time somebody pulls out a kestrel or a phone and inputs all of their weather information etc, they have either lost sight of the animal, the yardage has changed on a moving target and they have to change their number, or they fumble around and...

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• Forum: Long Range Hunting

 

[northernalpine]

Guys shooting factory ammo - what are you seeing out of 18-20” tikkas? I just acquired a 6.5 creed on a screaming deal locally and while I’m tempted to rebarrel it to 6 creed, I’m wondering if I don’t just chop and thread the 6.5 down and shoot it.

For reference my 20” PRC is shooting factory around 2730. I’d expect closer to 2500 out of creed but maybe not?

18.5” shooting factory 147’s@2550 with ~1.1 MOA 10 shot groups.

 

[frasier2122]

Density altitude is a single number that takes into account temp, pressure, and humidity, as opposed to three separate inputs.

DA can also be determined in the field with a simple paper chart, which can be an invaluable advantage to not reliant on electronics.

Take a look at this thread and the other threads mentioned within it if you want to learn more:

Thread 'Quick Field Methods For Determining Density Altitude.'

Aug 4, 2024

We had an informative discussion going in one of @Ucsdryders threads and I wanted to move it to its own space.

@Formidilosus and @Marbles shared some good information and I’m wondering if you guys could generalize how you handle long range ballistics factoring in environmental conditions at different altitudes.

I’ve found that by the time somebody pulls out a kestrel or a phone and inputs all of their weather information etc, they have either lost sight of the animal, the yardage has changed on a moving target and they have to change their number, or they fumble around and...

• mxgsfmdpx
• Replies: 18
• Forum: Long Range Hunting

Thanks. I'll read through that thread.

I'm pretty new to all of this. I took my 6.5 CM Tikka to a 900 yard range the other day (first time shooting anything past 100 yards), and a guy walked me through how to calculate dope on a Kestrel. It was a blast and I got a first round hit on the 900 plate after confirming zero at 100. I've been messing around with the Applied Ballistics app on my phone since. I'll be taking that rifle on a hunt next week, but I'm not sure any of these variables will make much of a difference at the max 2-300 yard ranges I expect.

But about that, in Applied Ballistics, it looks like Density Altitude auto-updates whenever I click the wifi-looking icons below Temp, Humidity, and Pressure (I assume the app is pulling data from a local weather station).

 

[HuntHarder]

You’re right- I should be more specific. 140-147 grain bullets. I don’t want to reload - just something to get to 600 yards. Just trying to gauge if the extra 2” of barrel will translate into any extended performance. I plan to suppress it - I know what an 18” 6creed gets me but that will cost me another $4-500 for a barrel

I think the CM really shines with the 130 gr bullets. The heavier 147 and up seem to do well in PRC. Either way, I am sure you would be around 1800 fps or more at 600 with just about any of the 130-147gr 6.5's.

 

[TreeDog]

Guys shooting factory ammo - what are you seeing out of 18-20” tikkas? I just acquired a 6.5 creed on a screaming deal locally and while I’m tempted to rebarrel it to 6 creed, I’m wondering if I don’t just chop and thread the 6.5 down and shoot it.

For reference my 20” PRC is shooting factory around 2730. I’d expect closer to 2500 out of creed but maybe not?

I was getting 2550 with factory 140 Eldm in a 18” super lite barrel and suppressor.

 

[coyotekilla]

A 90gr varmegedon wrecked this coyotes dinner reservations, he was headed to my buddies downed whitetail doe... crisis averted