.480 Ruger - Why didn’t it catch on?

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

It's more like bigger recoil amplifies anticipation, especially when that recoil results in increasing levels of actual pain. But it can come from shooting anything though, even like with the relatively silent, recoil-free bow you're talking about. Anticipation itself is more about the perceived consequences going around in your brain, keeping you from being clear-minded and in-the-moment. Things like a trophy animal, or the last shot in an otherwise perfect string of shots, tend to amplify it a lot more than a culling shot or the first round in a string. It's about what you're making it mean. Add in painful recoil, and that's like throwing an exponent onto that mental equation.

I feel like this would be a great conversation to carry on elsewhere. We’ve thoroughly hijacked the thread, but I have really enjoyed the side quest.

 

[Luke S]

I think the problem with the 480 is it came out about the time the 10mm became popular as a bear defense choice. You can debate that (see various posts above) but the undeniable fact is a LOT of guys in Alaska choose a 10mm now, Glock 20 seems to be the most popular. I think people figured out revolvers bigger then a standard size 44 are just hard to carry regularly. A 480 in a Super Redhawk is on the upper end of practicality for carry (to big for me actually). I think a single action 480 would be cool but my recollection is that was only available briefly with a longer barrel. A shorter 480 single action would be interesting.

 

[Steve300xcw]

One thing to consider, when a bear has you down and is chewing on you, at least a revolver doesn't have a slide to disengage and make your shooting iron inoperable if you have to shoot with the muzzle pushed into him!

Personal experience?

 

[3gunyotehtr]

Personal experience?

Nope!!! Just conjecture!!

 

[Choupique]

The more rounded shape will also make it hurt less when the bear shoves it up your poop chute

 

[Steve300xcw]

Well it started off as a decent thread..

 

[Texas270]

I think the problem with the 480 is it came out about the time the 10mm became popular as a bear defense choice. You can debate that (see various posts above) but the undeniable fact is a LOT of guys in Alaska choose a 10mm now, Glock 20 seems to be the most popular. I think people figured out revolvers bigger then a standard size 44 are just hard to carry regularly. A 480 in a Super Redhawk is on the upper end of practicality for carry (to big for me actually). I think a single action 480 would be cool but my recollection is that was only available briefly with a longer barrel. A shorter 480 single action would be interesting.

I wonder if it also lost momentum because it came out after 9/11.

Plus, I think that the S&W fanboys probably weren’t the biggest fans of a Ruger cartridge in a Ruger revolver.

It just seems solid ballistically in a good sized package. Hate that it’s not taken off as well as anticipated.

 

[Marbles]

Hyperbole is not a strawman

Miss stating what others say in an argument is a strawman. It is similar to hyperbole, but context defines it.

and 0.75" refers to seconds, not inches.

Obviously, are you saying you wanted me to argue that world class shooters are not doing 0.75" draw times? Does that really meaningful contribute anything? I'll take the cue and explain things that should be obvious and assume you cannot follow context.

Whatever someones draw time on the range is, it is in a situation where they are primmed and know it is coming, thus it will be slower if they are taken by surprise. The best shooter on earth is getting chewed if they first awareness of the bear is it launching a full blown charge from 20 yards or less, even if they have their competition rig on that day. Lucky for us humans, that is rare.

Now, you still haven't answered if you train braced point shooting. If you don't, you are in fantasy land arguing for a semi due having more rounds once the bear is chewing on you. Do you know what happens when the muzzle of a simi is jammed into something? The next conversation is does your slide get entangled leaving you with a single shot? You are the one who mocked the focus on trying to kill it before contact while using a simi, so the are legitimate points YOU need to address.

Using hyperbole, assuming others are stupid by explaining the painfully obvious, and apparently not knowing the basics of how your gun works is a bad look.




To everyone else who carries a simi, I think it is a reasonable choice, like other choices, there are trade offs. Please don't take the above as me saying you should carry something else.