4 day school week?

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There is a movement for a 4-day workweek and now 4-day school.

I guess you could come up with a decent 4-day school plan if you get rid of sports and gym. Then teach the kids RRR and skip the political crap, yeah it is doable - especially if the parents are on a 4-day routine themselves.

So - this is something the social engineers are creating - the 4 day work/school week. Is it beneficial or just another way of dumbing the country down even more?
 

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From the kids perspective, they're several schools here in Laramie county Wyoming, all LCSD2 schools have a 4 day school week. If the kids like school, or the parents are active in their kids schooling it works out. All kids that have a GPA x or lower also still have to attend school on Friday still. It has created a bit of a headache for many parents for childcare too.
Good to see that academics and learning are prioritized and grades come first.

Here in MD, the public school system seems to be in a slow state of decay. Most school administrators have their kids in private schools. I’m not sure a 4 day school week would be all that beneficial here.
 

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My kids started that 3 years ago. It isn't too bad but we have older kids (8th and 10th) so the extra day off doesn't cost us more in child care. Allows for more time to travel with kids and do outdoors stuff. Doesn't really set them up for the real world on a 5 day a week 8 hour grind though.

Jay

You hit on it, we need to start realizing these kids need to be prepared for the real world.

To me, they’d go to school year round, just with a summer break of a week or two.

This would prep them for the work force and allow them to finish sooner and not lose ground every summer and have to refresh again once school starts.


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I'm sure there are valid arguments for this, but it just feels like everything is too hard these days.

It's too hard for kids to get up (they want to play video games until 2am instead).
It's too hard to teach kids because everyone learns differently (somehow other generations managed with much less).
It's too hard for kids to concentrate (social media is calling).
Teachers complain about their long hours (even though much of it is done online and with computer grading).
Adults complain about working 5 days a week now too.
Parenting is too hard.

It just feels like we've become so accustomed to comfort and mediocrity that even getting up from the bed to walk over to the couch is too much work. Kids in Africa would love the opportunity to attend our schools 5 days a week. Maybe there is a better way and maybe less is better (seems unlikely given declining standards), but I am concerned with how we've managed to view so much of our lives as "hard".

The tough people are dying off. Everyone has this desire to give their kids a better life than they’ve had, but usually can’t define what “better is” so we end up with a bunch of spoiled brats loving a life that’s soooo easy, tying shoes and making your own decisions becomes a tough task.


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I work for a school that has 4 day weeks. It's great for us. The days are a little longer than when it was a 5 day week, and we don't get a fall break, but it evens out. 3 day weekends are awesome!!
 
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I work for a school that has 4 day weeks. It's great for us. The days are a little longer than when it was a 5 day week, and we don't get a fall break, but it evens out. 3 day weekends are awesome!!
This

Not to throw stones. big fan of teachers. got a couple in the family.

but…flip side of this is a lot of parents that work five day weeks that have to find child care. Teachers in the District here made a push for it post COVID and to be honest, it was mainly because they had gotten to liking longweekends. Don’t we all. Anyway, the school boards debated it for a while but there as a lot of opposition From parents so I didn't pass.
 

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Our district does the four day school week as of last year. It’s great for our family and schedule, but tough for our friends that work Monday through Friday. My wife manages the home farm and her own business so she loves having that extra day at home with our child. I work seven days a week, so the only change I noticed is that I can go to work earlier on Fridays instead of taking the kid to school.

As for the kids not getting enough sleep and having to get up early, we put our kid to bed between 7-7:30, up on her own at 6-6:30. I also don’t think it’s any easier than a five day school week. Even in kindergarten our daughter was sent up every weekend with a notebook full of homework expected to be done by Monday morning. The teacher this year sends home a month’s worth of homework at a time to be worked at on the weekends. She’s learning a lot about prioritizing time and activities.


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In high school we had half day Fridays. Was nice even with sports practices moved up, we were out earlier than we would normally have been. Currently, I work a 4 day work week. Hopefully, my children's school moves to a 4 day school week & we gain more adventure 3 day weekends.
 
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You hit on it, we need to start realizing these kids need to be prepared for the real world.

To me, they’d go to school year round, just with a summer break of a week or two.

This would prep them for the work force and allow them to finish sooner and not lose ground every summer and have to refresh again once school starts.


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This would increase the operating cost of school districts tremendously. Sounds good in theory, but probably wouldn’t work.
 

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You hit on it, we need to start realizing these kids need to be prepared for the real world.

To me, they’d go to school year round, just with a summer break of a week or two.

This would prep them for the work force and allow them to finish sooner and not lose ground every summer and have to refresh again once school starts.


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Agree they need to be better prepared for the work world. I don’t think this is the way because children need to develop socially and experience activities which a long summer break allows for. I would be onboard for changing the curriculum by removing non life skill based classes and add some basic financial courses along with bringing back shop classes, some kind of credit for working on a farm/ranch.
 

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A large portion of my property taxes fund the local school district. Will a 4 day school week reduce my taxes by 20%?

I dont think so. In fact, the local liberal school district indoctrination center will probably ask for more taxes
 
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A large portion of my property taxes fund the local school district. Will a 4 day school week reduce my taxes by 20%?

I dont think so. In fact, the local liberal school district indoctrination center will probably ask for more taxes
Probably not. Some of the chatter about a four-day school week is that it saves on some operating cost.
 

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Why do you think it’s too early? Off the top of my head I can’t think of a positive to start school later.


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Better learning outcomes for one
Reduce commuter traffic
Later starts reduce absence and tardiness in adolescent children
It’s also a lot easier for the teachers to teach students that are awake and alert


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To be clear, the late start has been shown to help older kids, adolescents. I'm not aware of any data that shows it helps elementary aged children.
 
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My oldest is on the 4 day a week schedule. She's in first grade but did it for kindergarten as well. I think it's great for the young kids and gives them a day to dedicate to homework. Don't know how I will fell about it as she gets older. I don't think I would like it on the highschool level.
 

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Are they reducing teachers salaries for that day? Most jobs if you don't work the hours you don't get payed. I pay almost $5000 dollars a year in taxes for these schools. If they are going 4 days a week to save operating costs, should everyones taxes be reduced? or does that money just disappear? Don't get me wrong I'm all for educators when they work.
 
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Are they reducing teachers salaries for that day? Most jobs if you don't work the hours you don't get payed. I pay almost $5000 dollars a year in taxes for these schools. If they are going 4 days a week to save operating costs, should everyones taxes be reduced? or does that money just disappear? Don't get me wrong I'm all for educators when they work.
As far as I understand, the minimum student contact hours would remain the same. In Kansas at least the most teachers have a negotiated agreement and they are paid up to 180 contract days or whatever is that agreed-upon number is.
 
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No, nope, never, nunca, nada, not interested. I gotta work 5/6 days a week TF am I supposed to do with them? "Use school as a daycare"? well, flipping right, yeah, I use school as a daycare because I have to work. I kinda know what you're intimating, and we're not that, but if you're so interested in childcare or paying me not to work, I'm all ears, you can have them a day a week, or I'll gladly take your money, be my guest.
 

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As far as I understand, the minimum student contact hours would remain the same. In Kansas at least the most teachers have a negotiated agreement and they are paid up to 180 contract days or whatever that agreed-upon number is.
Sounds reasonable, Time will tell. I know out here these poor kids graduate to fast food . Most can't do the basic reading , writing, and arithmatic. Boy they can sure use a phone though.
 
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