3d printed Tikka mags (not just 223 anymore)

Main purposes right now:
1) Do these the model files fit well on other's guns and in field use. That provides a template to play with more.
2) How does this material hold up so color options are on the table for fun.

Color options is really the only point in seeing if the the petg-gf seems to hold up well (or at least okay). Its something that isn't super expensive, prints decently (with hardened nozzle and extruder), and shouldn't soften in a hot vehicle or similar and warp (a risk with PLA). If that doesn't hold up then its just "boring" ;) black and muted colors typically infused with carbon. Glass is clear so it allows brighter colors. Maybe someone else knows of a stiff, temp resistant, wear resistant filament material in colors as an alternative?

This thread hasn't attracted others with printers much yet. I'm getting the impression folks are going to want me to print them out mag bodies if this color option pans out, which I can, but lets also not loose the sight of group creativity and development I'm trying to inspire.

They have a green for the rokslider die hards too! (This is just one manufacturer, I'm sure there are more options out there but fun enough in my opinion).

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I'm looking forward to hearing how the flush fit 6.5 PRC mags work out. I would definitely be interested in a couple of those in orange.
Is the appeal for you flush or just shorter than the 4rd I hear folks complaining about? Seems like a 3rd version the same size as other tikka mags is also a feasibility (not really sure why they don't offer one in PRC, do the WSM ones fit PRC coal?).
 
Yes I was saying they had spring steel stock but not completed springs of the normal types used in mags. If someone wants to experiment with DIY springs they are welcome to figure it all out. Ideally either finding an off the shelf solution or if someone coordinates a group buy of a custom order of springs seems like it'd have the best chance of being user friendly and consistency to the end result.

The above are just my opinions, the goal/point here is a group project to drive innovation from the group so folks can bring solutions and experiment as desired. I'm just not taking on DIY springs personally. ;)


Shoot. I suppose it's my new spring project then. 🤔
 
Is the appeal for you flush or just shorter than the 4rd I hear folks complaining about? Seems like a 3rd version the same size as other tikka mags is also a feasibility (not really sure why they don't offer one in PRC, do the WSM ones fit PRC coal?).
Flush would be ideal.
I'm not sure about the fit of the WSM mags.
 
Flush would be ideal.
Well the external dimensions in that regard seem pretty good to go in my impression, Foster can provide feedback on that. If anything it would probably be very minor adjustments. The M+ one fed fine so thats baseline functional. The PRC he'll have to weigh in on.

The flush feels nice but not sure I'd personally use that much since it just fits 2rds, I really like having 3rds when hunting. By the time you're going for 4 its probably a rodeo, I feel like 3rds might avoid some rodeos. But that is just me, options are nice to have, once size doesn't fit all.
 
I printed a 223 T3x mag before finding this thread. Has anyone tried to cut an AR magazine spring to size? I found a bunch of AR magazine spring on eBay for something like 12 for $25.
 
Main purposes right now:
1) Do these the model files fit well on other's guns and in field use. That provides a template to play with more.
2) How does this material hold up so color options are on the table for fun.

Color options is really the only point in seeing if the the petg-gf seems to hold up well (or at least okay). Its something that isn't super expensive, prints decently (with hardened nozzle and extruder), and shouldn't soften in a hot vehicle or similar and warp (a risk with PLA). If that doesn't hold up then its just "boring" ;) black and muted colors typically infused with carbon. Glass is clear so it allows brighter colors. Maybe someone else knows of a stiff, temp resistant, wear resistant filament material in colors as an alternative?

This thread hasn't attracted others with printers much yet. I'm getting the impression folks are going to want me to print them out mag bodies if this color option pans out, which I can, but lets also not loose the sight of group creativity and development I'm trying to inspire.

They have a green for the rokslider die hards too! (This is just one manufacturer, I'm sure there are more options out there but fun enough in my opinion).

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sent at ya a DM.
 

I wonder if something like this would be worth exploring? who's to say a rectangular coil spring wouldnt work? If there was a method of integrating some channel the spring could sit in and then print a follower that with interface? the tension could be adjusted with the amount of coils that are added or subtracted.

Its the same theory of the AR mag but just made custom and these seem to be much easier to make than the flat W style springs?
 
I'm curious how different the AICS size springs are cause those seem avalible.

 
who's to say a rectangular coil spring wouldnt work? If there was a method of integrating some channel the spring could sit in and then print a follower that with interface? the tension could be adjusted with the amount of coils that are added or subtracted.

Its the same theory of the AR mag but just made custom and these seem to be much easier to make than the flat W style springs?
No one was saying they wouldn't work, they just need to be the right size. I think either rectangular coil or W springs are probably going to be more straight forward that trying to use a pair of circular springs or such.

One issue I foresee with completely DIY springs is setting up to do it and consistency of them in a group dynamic / development. Compared to being able to order them from somewhere.

BUT on the flip side having something to DIY springs would feed innovation and experimentation... pros and cons.

Having access to bulk springs that are the same as the tikka mags would certainly be an easy button for 2-4rd type mags though I still think.
 
I'm curious how different the AICS size springs are cause those seem avalible.

This is where if folks have various other types of magazines on hand they could inspect details. :)
 
Made some 3rd M and L bodies so the M+ wasn't lonely. I need to get some range time soon...

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My kids have a printer. Would love to print a longer COAL 300 wsm magazine without going full long action mag. Maybe like a 6.5 prc that wasn't extended. However, haven't played around too much with modifying designs, just printing them. We use Orca Slicer.
 
My kids have a printer. Would love to print a longer COAL 300 wsm magazine without going full long action mag. Maybe like a 6.5 prc that wasn't extended. However, haven't played around too much with modifying designs, just printing them. We use Orca Slicer.
What are the dimensions of the factory WSM mag in the below photo? (Disregard the PRC reference, I sent this to forster). What COAL are you going for?

I have a WSM but don't have a tikka mag, I have the HCA mag. The PRC version I printed based of Forster's feedback was tight on a WSM case so the width on the tikka mag is obviously wider yet.

If you end up printing anything with glass fiber in it you'll want to make sure they have hardened nozzle/extruder (or put one in) cause it'll chew up stainless or brass ones. But you could prototype in PLA or such.

I also use orca slicer for the slicing. I've been making the model modifications in fusion360.

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What are the dimensions of the factory WSM mag in the below photo? (Disregard the PRC reference, I sent this to forster). What COAL are you going for?

I have a WSM but don't have a tikka mag, I have the HCA mag. The PRC version I printed based of Forster's feedback was tight on a WSM case so the width on the tikka mag is obviously wider yet.

If you end up printing anything with glass fiber in it you'll want to make sure they have hardened nozzle/extruder (or put one in) cause it'll chew up stainless or brass ones. But you could prototype in PLA or such.

I also use orca slicer for the slicing. I've been making the model modifications in fusion360.

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Good intel. It's been awhile since I've thought about this, I'll do some measuring and report back.
 
No one was saying they wouldn't work, they just need to be the right size. I think either rectangular coil or W springs are probably going to be more straight forward that trying to use a pair of circular springs or such.

One issue I foresee with completely DIY springs is setting up to do it and consistency of them in a group dynamic / development. Compared to being able to order them from somewhere.

BUT on the flip side having something to DIY springs would feed innovation and experimentation... pros and cons.

Having access to bulk springs that are the same as the tikka mags would certainly be an easy button for 2-4rd type mags though I still think.
I was thinking making a jig of some sort whether wood or printed that fed the springs at a constant angle and a stop pin to set constant length. from there you can pump out springs super fast. I would imagine you could make a really long spring and then cut them to length. it would be a lot easier to control tension consistency also. too loose, add another coil or two. too tight, snip some off.
 
What are the dimensions of the factory WSM mag in the below photo? (Disregard the PRC reference, I sent this to forster). What COAL are you going for?

I have a WSM but don't have a tikka mag, I have the HCA mag. The PRC version I printed based of Forster's feedback was tight on a WSM case so the width on the tikka mag is obviously wider yet.

If you end up printing anything with glass fiber in it you'll want to make sure they have hardened nozzle/extruder (or put one in) cause it'll chew up stainless or brass ones. But you could prototype in PLA or such.

I also use orca slicer for the slicing. I've been making the model modifications in fusion360.

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A: 2.905
B: 1.356
C: ?
D: .557
E: .420
F: .445

My current load is only 2.931 so I hardly need much more but I'd probably go a little longer for future needs. PRC length of 3.07 might be about right.
 
@pods8 (Rugged Stitching) you should take a wack at developing a 3D printed AICS Magnum mag with a 3.56" COAL for all of us that are rocking Tikkas in an XLR/MDT chassis and have no choice except the 5rnd metal AICS mags that weigh a half a damn pound! I would definitely be willing to invest some money/time/effort into dev of that!

In the mean time I will keep trying my luck at trimming down/cutting apart other poly mags to get them to fit...
 
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