308 168 ELD-Ms on Game

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My experience has been they both kill equally, as well. My only point - is that according to the people that design the bullet, eventually it won’t and math will catch-up with you. I did have an ELDM come apart really badly but it just blasted rib bone through the vitals and it was instant death. I can see on a shoulder how that might be a problem.
Do you feel that the same failure that you’re worried about could happen to an eldm could happen to say a federal powershok, sierra gameking, or Berger classic hunter?
 

Formidilosus

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You should listen the Ballistician’s discuss the Hornady podcast. I think you would find it interesting. They have a lot of data proving the disadvantages. Hornady engineers highly recommend not hunting with the ELDM.

I am well aware of what Hornady’s public position is. It is extremely probable that I have been apart of more animals killed with ELD-M’s and their predecessors- AMAX, than everyone at Hornady combined.


You do not understand how bullets are constructed. There is nothing in construction or mechanics of ELD-M’s that differ from any other plastic tipped lead core bullet- hunting or otherwise.



Im aware. If a bullet comes apart at entry, which the ELDM has a substantial larger chance of happening,

No it doesn’t.



Additionally, the ELDX will most likely cause a larger wound channel, as it is designed to stay together and expand to the lock ring.

No, it doesn’t. The ELD-X creates a narrower wound than ELD-M’s of equivalent caliber and weight.
 

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I’ve taken several deer with them in multiple calibers, and I have zero complaints. As stated above, they are a cup and core bullet like many others.
 

Luke S

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My 168 gr ELDM went through a 6 foot grizzly just fine. That is not a huge bear but it exited. For comparison, a 260 gr Nosler Partition from a .375 Ruger failed to exit on two grizzly bears shot from similar angles (one was 6.5 footer grizzly that probably weighed at least 100 pounds more, the other was the 8 footer in my avatar). I'm a fan now. I barely hand load now. Its is really nice to grab a box of Hornady ammo at the store and be done. Perhaps more impressive was the fact that a 123 ELDM from our little 6.5 Grendal exited a black bear that was almost as big as the grizzly. It also blew a nice big hole in and out. So yeah, I'd use that .308 on a elk.
 
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