.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[BLJ]

@Formidilosus. Do you still catch the top part of lungs with that shot placement?

 

[jermck]

My 12 yr old son harvested his first whitetail with the Rokslide Special yesterday. Thanks to Form and all the members that contribute to making this the best hunting forum on the internet.

 

[Pharmseller]

Poor little doe. Just minding her own damn business, living her life, not hurting anyone, then BAM!

Hanging from a meat pole.




P

 

[Moosehunter]

I think @Moosehunter is looking for a Tikka .223 boltface. Not a 223 bolt gun.

Tikka bolt assembly

Tikka bolt assembly. 223, Standard and magnum bolt face. Manufactured and assembled from quality steel machined pieces, Right hand.

jaoutdoors.com

Probably better to buy the whole t3x and pull the bolt out, sell off the rest.

That's the problem
Have the funds for the bolt and that's all I need. Ges I'll hafta dig deep
Those bolts are like gold

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus. Do you still catch the top part of lungs with that shot placement?

Yes sir. The front half of them will be severely damaged. I prefer that slightly forward shot, because a “high shoulder” is about 2 inches from being over the spine and not entering the chest cavity at all. The forward placement I showed with the dot- if you hit it- it’s an instantaneous bang flip. A bit high, same, and bit forward- same as you catch the spine at the base of the neck. And a bit back is a solid lung shot.

 

[fshaw]

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My 12 yr old son harvested his first whitetail with the Rokslide Special yesterday. Thanks to Form and all the members that contribute to making this the best hunting forum on the internet.

Congratulations to the hunter. Nice deer that will make some great meals.

 

[OdinIII]

I generally prefer a bit farther forward, versus higher and forward


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That flops them.

That’s exactly where I shoot deer too although I’m still using the larger rounds.

This is yet another example that proves to me that Form is the real deal. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone else recommend shooting them that far forward. My Dad and Uncle told me years ago that a shot there took out their front running gear and the deer has a hard time running without front legs. This has been my experience with bang-flops over and over.

 

[Nine Banger]

Eyeing my last tag and following this thread, I wanted to participate and see for myself what the fuss is all about. I switched barrels and bolts from 6.5 Creedmoor to 223 Remington and loaded some 77gr Sierra TMK bullets.

I loaded with 25.5 grains of Accurate 2520. I have some H4895 and IMR 8202 but I figured I'd start with the cheap and plentiful material.

The brass is 1.750, OAL is 2.660...

I was rushing to get in the stand so I confirmed zero but didn't set up the chronograph. I am zeroed for 73gr ELD-M and this load shot to the same point of impact so I'm thinking this load is around 2800fps. I'll come back and edit this when I chrono it.






I tagged out with a 112 lb doe which is about as big as they get around here. The shot entered the other side of the deer than was photgraphed and did not exit. Impact occurred at 42.6 yards. The result was a bang-flop and the doe was dead right there. I think this would qualify as a high shoulder shot.

 

[roosiebull]

Yes sir. The front half of them will be severely damaged. I prefer that slightly forward shot, because a “high shoulder” is about 2 inches from being over the spine and not entering the chest cavity at all. The forward placement I showed with the dot- if you hit it- it’s an instantaneous bang flip. A bit high, same, and bit forward- same as you catch the spine at the base of the neck. And a bit back is a solid lung shot.

The main intersection.

I have always favored the neck when applicable, but I will be shooting that shot when not, I like it

 

[BLJ]

Yes sir. The front half of them will be severely damaged. I prefer that slightly forward shot, because a “high shoulder” is about 2 inches from being over the spine and not entering the chest cavity at all. The forward placement I showed with the dot- if you hit it- it’s an instantaneous bang flip. A bit high, same, and bit forward- same as you catch the spine at the base of the neck. And a bit back is a solid lung shot.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[Formidilosus]

Thanks again for the help.

Yes sir.

You will lose some meat, but it certainly works.

 

[MEdude]

I generally prefer a bit farther forward, versus higher and forward


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That flops them.

Is there an equivalent aim point to high shoulder for a bang flop, when given a straight on presentation?

 

[clperry]

Is there an equivalent aim point to high shoulder for a bang flop, when given a straight on presentation?

Base of the neck. Or really any part of it.


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[Jake Leibke]

For those shooting factory loads… Black Hills on sale at Creedmoor Sports.

Black Hills 5.56 77 Gr TMK Ammunition

Black Hills TMK 5.56 77 Gr. Sierra Ammo 77 Gr. TMK Velocity: 2750 FPS 50ct box The products offered for sale on this page can expose you to chemicals, including Lead, which are known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. For...

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[jadkins223]

2 late season doe tonight. Shots were 150 ish. 20” AR. 77 tmk. Doe all spooked so I didn’t have much time to shoot. Both bang flops. I lost both front shoulders but didn’t have to track them! I’m done shooting behind the shoulder. I much prefer bang flops ! Sorry no pics. Lungs were mush. I love shooting the suppressor, after the first doe dropped the deer didn’t know which way the shot came from so they kinda ran in circles which allowed me to shoot another. A great way to end the season. Thanks [mention]Formidilosus [/mention]for the shooting location tips


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[Chris_in_Idaho]

Yes sir.

You will lose some meat, but it certainly works.



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That sure looks like a non-Form-approved Remington...

 

[jadkins223]

I’m in the market for a SWFA fixed 6X if anyone has one to sell. My mid/low tier sig isn’t cutting it


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[jadkins223]

Who has used the SWFA 10x without issues for hunting ? I want the 6X but they appear to be very difficult to find. The 10x is in stock and also in the classifieds. My shots are routinely 200 plus on deer


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[Jake Leibke]

Who has used the SWFA 10x without issues for hunting ? I want the 6X but they appear to be very difficult to find. The 10x is in stock and also in the classifieds. My shots are routinely 200 plus on deer


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I used one on my 22 cm this year. Didn’t have any issues. I did notice the closer shots I had to adjust focus but it wasn’t a big deal. I wouldn’t hesitate picking up another 10X. Killed deer at 135, 206 and 625 yards. I didn’t need to refocus for any of those but shot a few varmits as close as 30 yards and that’s when refocus was needed.


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[clperry]

Who has used the SWFA 10x without issues for hunting ? I want the 6X but they appear to be very difficult to find. The 10x is in stock and also in the classifieds. My shots are routinely 200 plus on deer


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I have an moa 10x on a 270wsm. It does fine. No real issues.


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