.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Anschutz

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If you’re going to break the law just do it and deal with the consequences if they arise. Trying to hide it isn’t going to help you with any sort of leniency. The wardens I know would definitely cite you for that, in addition to anything else they could find. Expecting them to be stupid probably won’t end well.


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I'm sure most Conservation Officers/Game Wardens could immediately tell the difference between a .22CF and 6mm. For one, most of them have a broader knowledge of firearms that beat cops. Second, there's probably a good number of them on here reading about this little trick. It'll spread to his buddies and their buddies pretty quick. Third, this guy probably isn't the first person to come up with this idea. I like being able to buy a hunting license and tags every year. Not risking that for anything.

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I just got her behind a pellet gun this summer, and recently added a 22 to the mix. So not anytime soon. My intentions with the Howa was to put it in an MDT Oryx youth chassis with an arca rail to be able to attach it to a tripod. The T3X compact is a great idea!! Funny you say that because I was actually thinking that the other morning driving to work, that a 223 compact would be a good rifle to move into in the future.j in

I just got her behind a pellet gun this summer, and recently added a 22 to the mix. So not anytime soon. My intentions with the Howa was to put it in an MDT Oryx youth chassis with an arca rail to be able to attach it to a tripod. The T3X compact is a great idea!! Funny you say that because I was actually thinking that the other morning driving to work, that a 223 compact would be a good rifle to move into in the future.
PNWGATOR is spot on and a good dude with good advice.
I would add; search hunting rifle drill here on the forum and start practicing that with the kiddo. It’ll be helpful for both of you.
 

PA HUNTR

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100% Tikka of choice for a young, new centerfire shooter.

Do you have a suppressor for her? If not, start the process now and make it your first priority.
Not yet. I have been looking around and researching different options. Never really considered one until recently with getting her into shooting.
 

PA HUNTR

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PNWGATOR is spot on and a good dude with good advice.
I would add; search hunting rifle drill here on the forum and start practicing that with the kiddo. It’ll be helpful for both of you.
Appreciate the info. I’ll definitely look into that. Thank you.
 

Unclecroc

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I have been using 22 cals on deer for several moons now. I’ve always had more varmint oriented rifles so I was limited to slow twist rifles mainly 1-12 and 1-14 twist.
I’ve had great success with a Sierra #1365 55 gameking soft point in 22-250 and 223. They don’t always exit but I haven’t seen any deer go far from the shot when using them.
This is a doe I shot with my favorite 22 cal deer load. This was a 22-250 1-12” twist 50 grain Barnes ttsx starting at the muzzle at 3850fps.
The shot was 180 yard tucked to the shoulder and she death ran for 8-10 seconds. Tremendous shock on the entrance side which is pictured.
The hammer offerings are also very good on deer and I’ve seen the 35gr kill way above its paygrade and it’s rated for 1-14” twist.
If you have a slow twist 22 don’t feel like you’re handicapped on deer there’s some great options out there to keep your favorite varmint rifle out in deer season too.
And yes I have read most posts in this thread, especially the ones with pictures lol.
 

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mt100gr.

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Not yet. I have been looking around and researching different options. Never really considered one until recently with getting her into shooting.
I have 3 daughters, all quite petite. 2 that are old enough to hunt now. They started with BB guns and a savage Rascal, etc. Then the T1x....and .223s. My oldest hunted her first 2 years with an unsuppressed .223. She shot it well, but the bark was obviously a turn off. We'd mostly shoot the .22 thats an exact duplicate of the .223. Once I got our first suppressor it was night and day. On the .22 we laugh at how quiet it is. And the Tikka Compact .223 is both girls' favorite to shoot (mine too). My oldest has told me many times that it's so much easier to crawl in behind the rifle knowing that the suppressor is there. And both are rookie enough that communication is key when we're lining up an animal - the suppressor makes it so easy and comfortable.

My oldest killed her 4th buck this year at 285 yds. One and done bang/flop, watched it drop in the scope. My middle daughter killed her first this year at 225yds. One and done bang/flop, watched it drop in the scope.

Honestly, knowing my girls, the .223 (and now with a suppressor) is the reason they're still interested and having fun with it. I really think they'd have drifted away from the idea if I had put a larger cartridge in front of them.
 

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Don't mean to clutter the thread but....
I'm desperate for a 223 tikka bolt. Shoot me a pm to keep it off this thread if u have one to sell. Just thought I might be targeting the right crowd 🙂
 

Tahr

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3 deer shot with 77 TMK last evening. 200, 230 and 250 yds. Tikka .223 and 2900 mv.

!st hit a little far back but exit angled through back of crease. It bolted 80 yards. Bullet was just under skin on opposite side.
2nd was tight behind shoulder. Did the .223 stagger and dropped within 5 yards. Bullet was pricking through the skin on opposite side ( base first-see pic).
3rd was smashed shoulder joint and bullet under off side skin. Bolted 10 yards. Its the projectile that shed its lead.
Hardly a drop of blood on the ground.
 

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Don't mean to clutter the thread but....
I'm desperate for a 223 tikka bolt. Shoot me a pm to keep it off this thread if u have one to sell. Just thought I might be targeting the right crowd 🙂
Eurooptic still has them on sale through the end of the year @ $799 for stainless and $699 for blued, plus a $75 rebate from Tikka. That’s as good a deal as you’ll find anywhere on a new one. I picked one up.
 

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Eurooptic still has them on sale through the end of the year @ $799 for stainless and $699 for blued, plus a $75 rebate from Tikka. That’s as good a deal as you’ll find anywhere on a new one. I picked one up.
Yup, me too. I'm kinda wishing I'd gone stainless instead of blued, but I can cerakote it for less than the price difference.

I'm ditching my ought-six to cover the cost (hintetty-hint-hint.....)
 

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RAR in 5.56. 77 TMK @2562 MV. Impact was at around 65 yards which would put velocity around 2428.

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Entrance on right. Exit on left
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Heart and lungs.
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This was my attempt at a high shoulder shot. I don’t think I was high enough. Arched her back and jumped at the shot. Ran approximately 40 yards.
Actually had some blood this time compared to the tight behind the shoulder/in the crease that I used last year, but still not a lot. But, she didn’t run very far either.
Based on my (2) kills with this bullet on deer, I’m going to stay behind the shoulder/in the crease.
I’m not complaining about it running 40 yards. But when I shot the last one behind the shoulder it ran about half of that distance after the shot. And the heart and lungs were both completely destroyed.
 

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Yup, me too. I'm kinda wishing I'd gone stainless instead of blued, but I can cerakote it for less than the price difference.

I'm ditching my ought-six to cover the cost (hintetty-hint-hint.....)
I got the stainless one for the extra hundred bucks because I can’t have nice things for long. Like you I am selling a Tikka in 300 WSM to a friend to cover this one. I just don’t need the bigger gun anymore. I already have a 6x SWFA in Sportsmatch rings for the 223.
 

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“High shoulder” is at about 9:30, 2.5 to 3 inches from your shot.
I’ll admit that I was tip toeing into it. I hadn’t studied the shot placement enough to fully commit.
I’d really prefer for them to go down immediately if possible. And I’ve always understood that the high shoulder is the “off switch”. Maybe next year.
 

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I’ll admit that I was tip toeing into it. I hadn’t studied the shot placement enough to fully commit.
I’d really prefer for them to go down immediately if possible. And I’ve always understood that the high shoulder is the “off switch”. Maybe next year.

I generally prefer a bit farther forward, versus higher and forward


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That flops them.
 
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