.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[2UP]

500 CT 77 TMK at OpticsPlanet for $189.99 plus 10% off and free shipping

 

[fwafwow]

500 CT 77 TMK at OpticsPlanet for $189.99 plus 10% off and free shipping

Isn’t Optics Planet the site with “issues”?

 

[2UP]

I’ve never had a problem if it shows in stock

 

[fwafwow]

According to some older threads, “in stock” may be a flexible status. See also the BBB:

OpticsPlanet, Inc. | Better Business Bureau® Profile

This organization is not BBB accredited. Optical Goods in Northbrook, IL. See BBB rating, reviews, complaints, & more.

www.bbb.org

 

[2UP]

I got a confirmation number. Just passing the info along. 4 when I ordered. Down to 2, so the inventory seems to be updating.

 

[Juan_ID]

Isn’t Optics Planet the site with “issues”?

I’ve bought from optics planet multiple times and never had an issue

 

[ElPollo]

According to some older threads, “in stock” may be a flexible status. See also the BBB:

OpticsPlanet, Inc. | Better Business Bureau® Profile

This organization is not BBB accredited. Optical Goods in Northbrook, IL. See BBB rating, reviews, complaints, & more.

www.bbb.org

This was interesting. I gave up ordering from OP about two years ago due to extended backorders for products listed as in stock. They do a terrible job of tracking inventory.

 

[Marshfly]

Optics Planet ships with DHL on their two lowest shipping tiers. Never again.


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[fwafwow]

Sorry to have derailed the thread. Mods - we may need a cleanup on aisle 5.

 

[Castle Rock]

Thanks for the info. Does this powder still exist?

That powder is still available in Australia where it is made my guess is they’re not just importing it to the US

 

[MEdude]

Sorry to have derailed the thread. Mods - we may need a cleanup on aisle 5.

YO! Plankton. My man.
Master meme-er, master derail-er.

 

[Lumberjack09]

DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ 176 PAGES? HERE'S THE CHEAT SHEET.

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“Bullets matter more than headstamps.”

“Spent primers offer the supreme tutorial”.

I’ve read it here and elsewhere online. It got my attention. I started digging and asking questions and listened.

The 77gr TMK delivered by a .223 is where I ended up after many discussions and objective data regarding bullet performance and numerous pics of field results.

Now for the delivery system. Accurate. Repeatable. Reliable. Reasonable weight to afford steady shot placement and the ability to spot my own impacts yet packable. Tikka T3x, vertical grip, Sportsmatch rings, SWFA 6x MQ in mills. Replaced the trigger spring with a yo Dave, adjusted to my liking, then degreased everything and locked all of the screws down with loctite and got started.

The package checks all of the boxes. Plus, it’s FUN! Time at the range is spent learning to call wind, trigger control, spotting your own impacts and figuring out why a shot did or did not end up where you wanted it. No brake. No flinch. Inexpensive to shoot. The fun factor plus the ability to be able to afford to shoot a lot goes a long way to learning and understanding shooting, accuracy and precision.

With all of that said, I’ve decided to use 77 TMK out of a .223 from this delivery system for bear, deer and elk this season.

Opportunity presented itself a couple of days ago. I killed a mature, dry sow with the 77 TMK. Bullet performance exceeded all expectations! The terminal performance is on par with anything I’ve seen in a .284 or .30. Unreal performance. The bullet is a BEAST!

Practice will continue throughout the summer in preparation for the upcoming deer and elk seasons.

Based on my sample of one, the 77 TMK out of a .223 is truly a lethal combination well suited to a dedicated lower 48 big game rifle.

Would love to hear about others experiences with this bullet or similar bulletts!

That’s crazy

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Optics planet is on the list of places I trust less than gas station sushi.

 

[SquatchHunter]

This thread…… thinking on the way to work like always. Swapping the razor from my unfired 300prc onto my 18” AR for deer season this year. But now what am I going to do with the PRC? I bought it for elk/moose someday and because I didn’t have a nice magnum cartridge yet. Thanks to this thread and the 6.5 one I feel like I don’t even need it. The dark thoughts of selling it along with the ammo/dies/mags are surfacing. But I know I’ll regret it. Maybe I’ll just turn it into a target gun and take it out hunting for fun once in a while.


All because of Sierra and those freaking TMKs.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

This thread…… thinking on the way to work like always. Swapping the razor from my unfired 300prc onto my 18” AR for deer season this year. But now what am I going to do with the PRC? I bought it for elk/moose someday and because I didn’t have a nice magnum cartridge yet. Thanks to this thread and the 6.5 one I feel like I don’t even need it. The dark thoughts of selling it along with the ammo/dies/mags are surfacing. But I know I’ll regret it. Maybe I’ll just turn it into a target gun and take it out hunting for fun once in a while.


All because of Sierra and those freaking TMKs.

Unless you’re going to shoot ELR a rifle like a 300PRC that torches barrels, burns way more powder, and beats you up more is a pretty impractical target rifle.

I gave up on magnums for hunting a long time ago. In the early 2000’s when I started big game hunting of course I was using 30 cal magnums because that’s what everybody said you needed to go kill basically anything bigger than an ground squirrel so that’s what I did. The turning point for me was when I started culling deer on bean fields and one day used my R700 LVSF 223 with 45gr Winchester varmint ammo because I had only planned on targeting groundhogs that day and ended up shooting a few deer instead. It dropped them the same way my 300 RUM’s did and ever since I’ve seen no reason to use anything like that for most hunting.

They do have their place in long range hunting though assuming you can shoot it well and want to do that. There’s no denying that something like a 215gr Berger Hybrid traveling at 2900+ has very little wind error and hits like a ******* freight train… but there’s also no denying that with modern bullet technology and some of the smaller caliber laser beam rounds you can put animals on the ground at distance too.

With that said, I would not stick any 22 caliber bullet in any case with any amount of powder behind it to use for long range hunting. A fast 6.5 like PRC or SAUM, absolutely.

 

[justinspicher]

I have a custom 65prc sitting in my safe with no optic because I decided to stick with my 223/556 setups instead.

I had thought about a single rifle cartridge only for some time and this thread pushed me over the edge and into execution.

 

[PNWGATOR]

This thread…… thinking on the way to work like always. Swapping the razor from my unfired 300prc onto my 18” AR for deer season this year. But now what am I going to do with the PRC? I bought it for elk/moose someday and because I didn’t have a nice magnum cartridge yet. Thanks to this thread and the 6.5 one I feel like I don’t even need it. The dark thoughts of selling it along with the ammo/dies/mags are surfacing. But I know I’ll regret it. Maybe I’ll just turn it into a target gun and take it out hunting for fun once in a while.


All because of Sierra and those freaking TMKs.

I own a 6.5 PRC and if I sold it, I wouldn’t miss it and if I didn’t already own one, I wouldn’t own another.

There are bullets out there delivered out of lower recoiling cartridges with equal terminal performance and higher hit rates.

 

[woods89]

I own a 6.5 PRC and if I sold it, I wouldn’t miss it and if I didn’t already own one, I wouldn’t own another.

There are bullets out there delivered out of lower recoiling cartridges with equal terminal performance and higher hit rates.

I feel like the one place I can see the 6.5 PRC being really beneficial is if I was forced to shoot monos, just to keep velocities up. Thank goodness I don't have to.

My hunting partner is having a hard time getting his mind around me bringing a 6.5 CM with 130 TMK this year and potentially shooting a big bull with it. He's a good guy and a great shot, but likes his 300 WM. For me at this point, my 6.5 CM is as large as I need to go, and I'll likely do a lot of whitetail hunting with my 223 in the coming years. It's not legal where we elk hunt.

 

[SquatchHunter]

Unless you’re going to shoot ELR a rifle like a 300PRC that torches barrels, burns way more powder, and beats you up more is a pretty impractical target rifle.

I gave up on magnums for hunting a long time ago. In the early 2000’s when I started big game hunting of course I was using 30 cal magnums because that’s what everybody said you needed to go kill basically anything bigger than an ground squirrel so that’s what I did. The turning point for me was when I started culling deer on bean fields and one day used my R700 LVSF 223 with 45gr Winchester varmint ammo because I had only planned on targeting groundhogs that day and ended up shooting a few deer instead. It dropped them the same way my 300 RUM’s did and ever since I’ve seen no reason to use anything like that for most hunting.

They do have their place in long range hunting though assuming you can shoot it well and want to do that. There’s no denying that something like a 215gr Berger Hybrid traveling at 2900+ has very little wind error and hits like a ******* freight train… but there’s also no denying that with modern bullet technology and some of the smaller caliber laser beam rounds you can put animals on the ground at distance too.

With that said, I would not stick any 22 caliber bullet in any case with any amount of powder behind it to use for long range hunting. A fast 6.5 like PRC or SAUM, absolutely.

That’s essentially where I’m at. I have the 6.5C for if I want a little extra distance when hunting. I feel like the 300 is just going to be a safe queen until I move out west so I can start ELR shooting some more. At that point I might as well start from the ground up and build a dedicated rifle.

Sell and buy more TMKs

 

[dirtytough]

There are bullets out there delivered out of lower recoiling cartridges with equal terminal performance and higher hit rates.

What bullets have equal terminal performance @1100 yards as a 6.5 PRC and a 156 Berger with the same barrel life, less recoil, and higher hit rates?