.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

atmat

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Daughter out shooting tonight with the tikka 223. “Wow dad this thing is so fun to shoot”. No doubt next year she will be shooting her first deer with a 77tmk as she’s so confident with this rifle. Coyotes are in trouble this winter
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I can’t wait till my daughters are old enough to shoot. But get that girl a shooting mat! She’s almost laying in mud.
 
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Why is there no talk of the 22 hornet? Its velocity is only 200 yards behind the 223.

I mean you could do it, but why? Most of them are 14 twist which aren't going to begin to work with a bullet that will be effective and they feed like shit out of magazines. Might as well just do a 223 and have the extra range and the ammo and brass availability.
 

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You’re quite consistent with the recommendation of the 77 TKM out to 450 at 223 velocities, so that‘s the same as 22 hornet to 250 yards with the same bullet. Right?

edit: Others are killing elk to the equivalent of 600 to 800 yards out of the hornet.
I have a couple of Hornets. How are you stuffing a 77g TMK in Hornet case and still fitting it in the chamber with any room left for powder if you could even spin it with the standard 12 or 14 twist barrels they have? Even with a Hornet K chamber in a custom barrel I doubt the TMK or 73 ELDM would have enough velocity to expand at 100 yards. A 45 grain Hornet round is only 2645 at the muzzle.

Jay
 

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Show me a 22 Hornet that can shoot a 77gr TMK.
There are very few custom 22 hornets with fast enough twist - but they are out there.

I‘m mostly just joshing you guys - the experiences you guys have had with the 223 are impressive. I can imagine a factory load coming out with one of your combinations, largely due to the work you guys have put into it.

Don‘t get me wrong, the grand kids are still getting a 7 mag for Christmas. 🙂
 

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Is this a joke or no? Lol I’m new here
Putting a 77gr TMK in a 22 Hornet is a joke.

But the 77 TMK in 5.56 or 223 doesn't appear to be a joke at all. Just scroll through the thread and look at some of the photos. Pretty lethal combination.
 

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The 22 hornet in a modern action is only 200 yards behind the 223 - maybe 250. I only bring it up to help out the guys that don’t shoot far and want to maybe have a more appropriate rifle built. 😁
In order to be only 250 yards behind the performance of black hills 77 tmk load, you're gonna have to push that bullet at around 2450 fps out of your hornet. Got some secret load data to share? Maybe an Ackley improved, +p hornet with a 36 inch barrel?
 
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