.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Lawnboi

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Hmmmmmm, may have to snag some up, anyone want a few boxes of the 75 eldm’s?! 😊
I’m tempted to get a few boxes as well. 75s shoot great out of my hunting rifle now. They are marginally stable and I’m not sure they are the bullet I want to choose when shooting in the winter. Iv got a bunch of 60 tmk to play with as well for that though. I want to save all my 77 tmk for deer until they become more available again
 

Rich M

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I stopped in to the lgs yesterday to look just in case. They had some powders I don't need, but when I was looking at the small stack of Sierras for some TMKsi was disappointed, again.

As I was turning to leave an older gent asked what I was looking for. I told him and he began telling me about his preference. I just nodded a lot, told him I'd tried most everything he'd mentioned. Then told him several of the bullets he'd mentioned worked well on game, but the most devastating thing I'd tried was the TMK.

The lecture began. After about a minute I interrupted him and asked if he'd ever shot anything but paper. "No" was his reply.

It never shocks me how little actual experience there is involved in all the bloviating.

Most folks yip and yap about stuff we/they have no business talking about. Gotta admit that it happens way more than it should.
 

Nomosendero

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I’m tempted to get a few boxes as well. 75s shoot great out of my hunting rifle now. They are marginally stable and I’m not sure they are the bullet I want to choose when shooting in the winter. Iv got a bunch of 60 tmk to play with as well for that though. I want to save all my 77 tmk for deer until they become more available again
Or in my part of the world, available at all, along with 6.5PRC brass!!
 
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I don't have a .223 but I enjoy following this thread. I find it pretty amusing that after all of these pictures of animals with gaping wounds, you still get posts like the above.

No data, no evidence. Just a statement that it's a bad idea and doesn't work.

PNWGATOR posted his wife's moose and it looked pretty dead. All those deer? Dead. All of the actual evidence presented here shows these bullets to be terminally effective in a major way. Yet, there is no shortage of people claiming otherwise with no backup.
 

204guy

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I’m tempted to get a few boxes as well. 75s shoot great out of my hunting rifle now. They are marginally stable and I’m not sure they are the bullet I want to choose when shooting in the winter. Iv got a bunch of 60 tmk to play with as well for that though. I want to save all my 77 tmk for deer until they become more available again
I haven't used the 75 eldm's, I'm still working through my stash of 75 amax's, but they've been absolutely death to deer and antelope.
 

LimeSpoon

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I don't have a .223 but I enjoy following this thread. I find it pretty amusing that after all of these pictures of animals with gaping wounds, you still get posts like the above.

No data, no evidence. Just a statement that it's a bad idea and doesn't work.

PNWGATOR posted his wife's moose and it looked pretty dead. All those deer? Dead. All of the actual evidence presented here shows these bullets to be terminally effective in a major way. Yet, there is no shortage of people claiming otherwise with no backup.
in my experieints...it is very comon for deer and moose to play dead. even with 4 inch holes in there body. once i hit a deer with 20mm DU penetrator APIFSDS. after a 120 yard run i thought the lihtes had left him...dressed and preped him to cook. later at dinner i got the worst hernea of my life when he woke up and sprinted out of my ass. anyways my point is leave the varmit rounds for varmits. light match bullets like those dont have enugh energy and will blow up on the ribcage. or they will pencil through and leave the deer colecting disability benifits for the rest of its life wasting my taxes. you dont have to believe me but i have 60 years of hunting experieints and kno what ive seen and what im comfertable with...so...take it or leave it. just dont come crying when you lose some game ;)
 
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I don't have a .223 but I enjoy following this thread. I find it pretty amusing that after all of these pictures of animals with gaping wounds, you still get posts like the above.

No data, no evidence. Just a statement that it's a bad idea and doesn't work.

PNWGATOR posted his wife's moose and it looked pretty dead. All those deer? Dead. All of the actual evidence presented here shows these bullets to be terminally effective in a major way. Yet, there is no shortage of people claiming otherwise with no backup.

This thread is also a perfect thread for people doing what the guy above you is doing. Very short “sentences” to increase post count on a new account.
 

Shraggs

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in my experieints...it is very comon for deer and moose to play dead. even with 4 inch holes in there body. once i hit a deer with 20mm DU penetrator APIFSDS. after a 120 yard run i thought the lihtes had left him...dressed and preped him to cook. later at dinner i got the worst hernea of my life when he woke up and sprinted out of my ass. anyways my point is leave the varmit rounds for varmits. light match bullets like those dont have enugh energy and will blow up on the ribcage. or they will pencil through and leave the deer colecting disability benifits for the rest of its life wasting my taxes. you dont have to believe me but i have 60 years of hunting experieints and kno what ive seen and what im comfertable with...so...take it or leave it. just dont come crying when you lose some game ;)
Spelling and grammar in those 60 years too?
 

LimeSpoon

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You lose the right to tell me about your experiments or experience when you say experieints.
yup...another youngster dowting my wisdom...u should have more respect for ur elders kid...still have rectal prolaps from that deer that woke up. and than when i went to the office for my intestinal disability benifits guess what i saw in their...lots of deer hit with MATCH BULLETS! so i know im right. and arguing with those federal aid workers was something id never wish on any deer...talk about a slow and painful death LOL!!!

@mods let me know if this is filling the thread with too much trash at this point, I didn't expect that first post to get such a followup.

I thought that was the edujumacated word for hold my beer watch this.

u must be another one of those kids that says 20mm APFSDS is too much. well let me tell u a real man drinks wisky and ive never heard of anyone who wanted less penitration when they took the shot. i hear all the time, use high explosiff in 20mm instead...well guess what, if the deer is turned at an angull, that aint gonna work!!! lol...broadside shots only with HEI. no thanks. and besides, wastes too much MEAT!!!
 
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yup...another youngster dowting my wisdom...u should have more respect for ur elders kid...still have rectal prolaps from that deer that woke up. and then when i went to the office for my intestinal disability benifits guess what i saw in their...lots of deer hit with MATCH BULLETS! so i know im right. and arguing with those federal aid workers was something id never wish on any deer...talk about a slow and painful death LOL!!!

@mods let me know if this is filling the thread with too much trash at this point, I didn't expect that first post to get such a followup.



u must be another one of those kids that says 20mm APFSDS is too much. well let me tell u a real man drinks wisky and ive never heard of anyone who wanted less penitration when they took the shot. i hear all the time, use high explosiff in 20mm instead...well guess what, if the deer is turned at an angull, that aint gonna work!!! lol...broadside shots only with HEI. no thanks. and besides, wastes too much MEAT!!!


Naw, real men have beer for breakfast.


That liquor just dehydrates you. My latte's are Bush.
 
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