.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Just know that there are state wildlife agency employees actively cataloging info from this thread and elsewhere in order to persuade ruling committees to drop the minimum caliber laws and allow 22s for deer. By my count, 38 states already allow it.

I'm one of them who is working on that - so thanks!

If you are in CO, can you document that copper bullets suck (in comparison) for killing while you are at it.
 
Damn- didn't need to see the TMK deal. They shoot great in my Tikka. Just ordered 1,000 of them. Great deal with free shipping too!
 
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In addition to my pile of 77 TMK slingers I picked up a 6 ARC too. 108 ELDMs show expansion velocities out to 550 as well. 20” upper. Excited to tinker with it too. The kiddos have taken about all of my 5.56 uppers haha.


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Question for the group, I have an LWRCI AR 1-7” rifle and an 11 yr old daughter to outfit. Would I be better set up putting a scope on the AR, getting some tmk’s, and spending money on a suppressor for her to shoot/hunt with or by getting a Tikka set up and purchasing a suppressor down the line?
 
Question for the group, I have an LWRCI AR 1-7” rifle and an 11 yr old daughter to outfit. Would I be better set up putting a scope on the AR, getting some tmk’s, and spending money on a suppressor for her to shoot/hunt with or by getting a Tikka set up and purchasing a suppressor down the line?
Run what you got unless you need an excuse for a new project. My LWRC shoots the TMKs very well and I wouldn’t think twice about putting a scope on it if it wasn’t dedicated to a specific setup.
 
Question for the group, I have an LWRCI AR 1-7” rifle and an 11 yr old daughter to outfit. Would I be better set up putting a scope on the AR, getting some tmk’s, and spending money on a suppressor for her to shoot/hunt with or by getting a Tikka set up and purchasing a suppressor down the line?
While I prefer to teach kids on a bolt gun, I would put them behind a suppressed rifle first every time.

My oldest daughter started on an unsuppressed 223 and when we finally got the can, her comfort level behind the rifle was night and day.
 
Run what you got unless you need an excuse for a new project. My LWRC shoots the TMKs very well and I wouldn’t think twice about putting a scope on it if it wasn’t dedicated to a specific setup.
I never need much of an excuse, but have to pace myself!

While I prefer to teach kids on a bolt gun, I would put them behind a suppressed rifle first every time.

My oldest daughter started on an unsuppressed 223 and when we finally got the can, her comfort level behind the rifle was night and day.
Thanks. She isn’t new to shooting, but certainly is to centerfire rifles and hunting.
 
I never need much of an excuse, but have to pace myself!


Thanks. She isn’t new to shooting, but certainly is to centerfire rifles and hunting.
Copy that. My girls never 'wanted' to shoot before the suppressor(s). They'd get into it once we were at the range, but wouldn't ask to go, or anything.

The rimfire suppressor is the real work horse. We all giggle when the steel at 100 yards rings louder than the .22

For hunting with kids, communication is so critical. Being able to shoot a hearing safe rifle is awesome.
 
Question for the group, I have an LWRCI AR 1-7” rifle and an 11 yr old daughter to outfit. Would I be better set up putting a scope on the AR, getting some tmk’s, and spending money on a suppressor for her to shoot/hunt with or by getting a Tikka set up and purchasing a suppressor down the line?
Just understand that an AR might still be sorta loud at the shooters ear due to port pop. And, may end up pushing more gas into the users face. I think those can be lessened/eliminated with some parts and tuning though.
 
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