22 ARC

[z987k]

I've been having a great time messing around with the 22 ARC so far and have a couple bolt rifle builds in the works. Here is the full video breakdown of killing a moose with it this year:

That actually did less damage than I thought it would. What are you getting for MV from those?

 

[bearcreekbandit]

That actually did less damage than I thought it would. What are you getting for MV from those?

MV was 2695, impact V was around 2450


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[CMP70306]

MV was 2695, impact V was around 2450


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What rifle and barrel length?

 

[bearcreekbandit]

What rifle and barrel length?

20” gas gun. Aero throw together and a BA barrel


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[CMP70306]

20” gas gun. Aero throw together and a BA barrel


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Gotcha, kicking around a short barrel gun for here in PA and since we can’t use semi auto pistols I’ve been back and forth between the 22 ARC and the 22 Creedmoor in a short bolt gun. Question then becomes do I go 22 ARC in an AR platform with a Solo 300 side charger or do I go with a standard short action in a chassis with 22 Creed. Most shots are 100 and under but we do have access to our buddies field which pushes 600 yards with deer, coyotes, groundhogs and crows on the menu.

 

[bearcreekbandit]

Gotcha, kicking around a short barrel gun for here in PA and since we can’t use semi auto pistols I’ve been back and forth between the 22 ARC and the 22 Creedmoor in a short bolt gun. Question then becomes do I go 22 ARC in an AR platform with a Solo 300 side charger or do I go with a standard short action in a chassis with 22 Creed. Most shots are 100 and under but we do have access to our buddies field which pushes 600 yards with deer, coyotes, groundhogs and crows on the menu.

There are a lot of good options, and I’ve thought a lot about going that route with the 22cm. In a bolt gun you do have the advantage of loading to 62k pressures, and really, the 22cm just gets you an extra couple hundred yards of range…I think with a good bolt gun load you’d still be at or above 2k at 600 with the ARC


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[ACHILLES]

Cutting the barrel down to 12.5” on a ruger gen 2 22arc and running 75elds at 2850 with cfe223 handloads would make a nice short, light, low recoiling rig.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

Cutting the barrel down to 12.5” on a ruger gen 2 22arc and running 75elds at 2850 with cfe223 handloads would make a nice short, light, low recoiling rig.

You think that velocity is legit? I haven’t looked at the numbers. But if that’s accurate, I will build one for a AZ rifle where there aren’t caliber restrictions.

 

[WestTN2288]

Cutting the barrel down to 12.5” on a ruger gen 2 22arc and running 75elds at 2850 with cfe223 handloads would make a nice short, light, low recoiling rig.

I’d be interested to see if that velocity would work. I’m fixing to get a 12.5 ar barrel, but I was thinking 2700-2750 is best I could do. Still though, that’s a 16-18in 223 out of a 12.5in

 

[amassi]

You think that velocity is legit? I haven’t looked at the numbers. But if that’s accurate, I will build one for a AZ rifle where there aren’t caliber restrictions.

You think that velocity is legit? I haven’t looked at the numbers. But if that’s accurate, I will build one for a AZ rifle where there aren’t caliber restrictions.

Hornady has a 75 bolt gun load at 3250 with a 24” test barrel
I’d bet with the right loader you’d get there even at 12.5”


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[StupidLightweight]

Noah's "Deuce Duece" ARC is a beast of a cartridge that's far more capable than 99% of us hunters. I've not gone down the rabbit hole, but I will soon. For modern hunters, it's a fine choice for everything from prairie dogs to moose. Great work, Tyler. I'm blown away that people question the ethics of using that cartridge on big animals like you did so perfectly.

Then again, the knowledge hunters had in the early 1900s of the effectiveness of small-caliber, high-velocity projectiles got lost in the "Dark Ages," when hunters went full "magtard" for decades. It's hard to blame someone for not knowing what they don't know.

 

[hereinaz]

You think that velocity is legit? I haven’t looked at the numbers. But if that’s accurate, I will build one for a AZ rifle where there aren’t caliber restrictions.

I have an 18” 22 BR shooting 80 gr VLDm, I love it. Just starting work up.

There are a lot of good options, and I’ve thought a lot about going that route with the 22cm. In a bolt gun you do have the advantage of loading to 62k pressures, and really, the 22cm just gets you an extra couple hundred yards of range…I think with a good bolt gun load you’d still be at or above 2k at 600 with the ARC


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I think It’s plenty to go to 600, I shoot my 22 ARC gas gun further. Shoot my .223 with match ammo and 14.5” barrel past 600 too.

I think the 22 GT is the biggest cartridge I would run in .22 caliber. The 22 creed is way overbore, IMO.

 

[ACHILLES]

You think that velocity is legit? I haven’t looked at the numbers. But if that’s accurate, I will build one for a AZ rifle where there aren’t caliber restrictions.

Yes for a bolt gun. I spoke KAK via email and they’re getting 2600fps from factory 75eldms out of 12.5” ARs and he said around 2800 with handloads. My ruger gen2 20” will push 80s 3100fps with cfe223 and 3020 with varget. Factory 75elds are 2930fps out of the 20” but I bet I could run them 3150fps with hand loads. 300fps loss for 7.5” shorter barrel seems about right.

 

[ACHILLES]

Kak 12.5” barrels are back in stock, just picked one up.

 

[WestTN2288]

That’s exactly the one I’ve been wanting but trying to get it on my Christmas list… hope you don’t mind keeping us updated on accuracy/velocity

 

[Gettincloser]

I have recently ordered a 22 ARC in a volt gun configuration. It would be nice if someone had factory loads at the higher pressure for us that do not reload. This might push me over the edge to start reloading. This is going to be a fun adventure! I like the fact that the 22 ARC is not as much of a barrel burner as the 22 Creedmoor but still pushed the high BC pills the fight wind. If there is one thing I am bad at, wind calls could be a contending champ! For where I hunt in TX, 88gr eldm's are going to be the ticket... at least until Siera offers a 90ish gr TMK!

Thanks for all the info. Have yall started a 22 ARC hunting thread yet? I know there is the 223 and 6mm threads. I just haven't seen one for the 22 ARC yet? Hope to add to it this year!

 

[ACHILLES]

Hornady just dropped 22arc superperformance ammo
70gr CX @3125 in a 24”
Retailers are showing it oos so should be hitting shelves soon.
A superperformance load with the 75/80gr elds would be great also

 

[FredH]

Ordered a light 16 inch 22 ARC barrel from Faxon. A few more parts and will assemble it. Gas gun velocity I hope will match that of a 20 inch 223 with 75-80 grain bullets. Deer, coyotes and feral hogs. Probably won't be finished before deer season ends but coyotes and hogs will still be targets.

 

[ACHILLES]

Got a chance to check velocity today with some factory ammo out of my AR. Velocities are from a new KAK Nitrided 12.5” mid length barrel with a kak 20position adjustable gas block, 7 twist, suppressed. It should gain some speed as it breaks in. Didn’t get a chance to test my 80gr eldm hand load yet but should be around 2600 in a fresh barrel.

75 eldm black ammo
2590fps

62 eld vt ammo
2790fps

 

[FredH]

Got a chance to check velocity today with some factory ammo out of my AR. Velocities are from a new KAK Nitrided 12.5” mid length barrel with a kak 20position adjustable gas block, 7 twist, suppressed. It should gain some speed as it breaks in. Didn’t get a chance to test my 80gr eldm hand load yet but should be around 2600 in a fresh barrel.

75 eldm black ammo
2590fps

62 eld vt ammo
2790fps

My 16 incher came together easier than I figured it would. The 88 gr. Factory load is giving me the same fps the 75 is in your shorter barrel. I had loaded around 100 80 gr. ELDM's but my Hornady dies would not load straight ammo and I couldn't get groups under 2 inches. Factory 88's giving less tham MOA groups. I sent the dies back and ordered LEE 22 ARC dies from Midsouth, they have not arrived yet.