zip off long johns

[skipper907]

looking for suggestion on heavier weight synthetic zip off long johns. I currently have kuiu 97 zip off which are nice just looking for something in the 200weight range. Or maybe I will have to just use zip off puffy pants
Thanks

 

[180ls1]

Puffy. The 97 punches above its weight so needing more means its time to "go big."

 

[WeiserBucks]

Puffy. The 97 punches above its weight so needing more means its time to "go big."

Very true. Hard to hike much in 97s unless it's very cold.

 

[River Reaper]

I’ve got zip off puffy pants and long johns. I really like the First Light Kiln zip offs. Good weight and when I get too warm hiking they zip on and off pretty easy

 

[H80Hunter]

The SG Helio bottoms are nice too for another midweight option. I have used the Kiln 250s the last couple years and they're nice too.

 

[fngTony]

Kuiu kenai pants are probably the next step up but they are in between a base layer and puffy pants. The SG helio didn’t feel any warmer than the Kuiu 97 and the fit was really off for me. Haven’t tried the Firstlite. Unless we’re getting into Sherpa fleece is it really going to be significantly warmer than a base layer without getting into a puffy pant?