ZeroTech TRACE ADV 3-18×44 FFP Shoot2Hunt

[huntnful]

They’ll be card telling consumers that it really isn’t advised to do it themselves, with a link to an unedited video of it…. And a QR code of how to do it, along with a step by step process if someone won’t listen- including using a proof scope first to proof the system, otherwise it’s a waste of time. People are going to break their scopes, their mounts, and their rifles.

People don’t listen, and I’m going to laugh.

Yeah I won’t be dropping my shit, but I’ve seen enough scopes lose zero just rattling around in a side by side to know that’s a pretty decent, unavoidable test in itself.

 

[RockAndSage]

I'll have to buy one and throw it on the ground so we have an independent test.

^Look at what I highlighted in your quote.

Your instinct to wonder about genuine independent testing is fine - I don't think anyone has any problem with that.

What is a problem is the actual language you're using across multiple posts - it strikes accusatory, disingenuous, trollish, and absolutely ignorant of the actual testing protocol.

Nobody's "throwing" $h*t man, it's a drop test with actual protocols. There's nobody "independent" out there doing this. So quit mischaracterizing what's being done, and cease being a jackwagon about it, FFS.

 

[Shortschaf]

It will be hard for someone on this preorder list to not have any bias with the scope considering how much they likely follow every word of the folks selling it on this site. Hence my question.

What if it fails the drop testing? Minds will crumble.

I don't understand why you're being grilled so hard about asking what you are asking

I plan to drop mine and will be unhappy if it doesnt do at least as well as the Tenmile I dropped

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I don't understand why you're being grilled so hard about asking what you are asking

I plan to drop mine and will be unhappy if it doesnt do at least as well as the Tenmile I dropped

Because of the tone like they have a magic wand to make some other independent tester spring up.

 

[Shortschaf]

Because of the tone like they have a magic wand to make some other independent tester spring up.

Everybody outside of rokslide ridicules it for being campy and hostile about this topic, and it's easy to be better than that

I assume this is not anyone's first day on the internet, and we know how to read a comment for what the words say and not what "tone" we think is behind it

If he's trolling, fine. Getting worked up just feeds that endless cycle, so move on.
And if he's serious, it's an easy question to answer

 

[freddyG]

Yeah I won’t be dropping my shit, but I’ve seen enough scopes lose zero just rattling around in a side by side to know that’s a pretty decent, unavoidable test in itself.

Yep. Anyone that is around this stuff more than casually knows that most scopes are fragile. If the S2h scopes are in the same boat, it won’t take long for word to get out.

On another note, there are a lot of POS human beings on other forums that want like hell for this scope to fail, only for their own personal satisfaction. Pretty sad deal all around.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

L.

100% these will get hammered hunting season and most on here will definitely give honest opinions regardless who’s feelings it hurts.
It wont be hard to figure out the dumbshits that purposely break them.
I preordered two with all the confidence they will replace my NXS.
Honestly I’m worried about it,let’s says you get a lemon,there will probably be a few and that’s to be expected.
Send it in and get a replacement.
It’s a win win for all buyers and these guys have everything to loose.
No way im dropping mine on purpose,thats retarded.Im dam sure sure not throwing it.
Thats the testers job in developing these.

 

[Dobermann]

Can we stop feeding the troll now? Please?

 

[Ryan Avery]

As I said, there will be no shortage of "independent testers."

Yep. Anyone that is around this stuff more than casually knows that most scopes are fragile. If the S2h scopes are in the same boat, it won’t take long for word to get out.

On another note, there are a lot of POS human beings on other forums that want like hell for this scope to fail, only for their own personal satisfaction. Pretty sad deal all around.

As I said above, there will be no shortage of "independent testers."

 

[HuntHarder]

Yep. Anyone that is around this stuff more than casually knows that most scopes are fragile. If the S2h scopes are in the same boat, it won’t take long for word to get out.

On another note, there are a lot of POS human beings on other forums that want like hell for this scope to fail, only for their own personal satisfaction. Pretty sad deal all around.

Which other forums? I dont visit any of them except a local Az one. Is there really talk of people hoping this fails?

 

[nm.otter]

In the suppressor world, Jay from pew science is supposedly an unbiased source from whom an honest review would come. Companies send their cans to him to get graded against others and

...pay him, as do the consumers of those very same reports.

As an engineer with acoustics and measurement experience, I respect his abilities and his process -- but the lack of open source code and third-party audits give me pause.

 

[5MilesBack]

Anyone who got in line to preorder is already predisposed to love it as they have sent their own money on it, it's just human nature.

I got in on the Minox ZP5 THLR pre-order a few months ago. As soon as the scope showed up I recognized that there was something wrong with the diopter and parallax adjustments, rendering the scope useless to me. It's been sent back to Minox for repair. Even though I should be predisposed to love it.........I'm currently NOT in love with it. Time will tell......after I get it back.

I'll be in the same boat if I can get an order in next month for a couple of these S2H THLR scopes. I expect them to arrive in perfect condition and fully functional, but if not I won't be in love with those either........until I am.