ZeroTech TRACE ADV 3-18×44 FFP Shoot2Hunt

There's a 100% correlation to failing Form's drop (A) and losing zero riding around in a boat/truck/atv/mule team/whatever (B) from what I can glean. I'm not dropping mine that hard, and I'm not gluing my action in either, but it's cool to know someone has done that in order to find out B. If a person doesn't want the ZT/S2H there are other survivors available. Or just buy a nice, light Leupold and go with that. They have a pretty good warranty.
 
Good lord folks I'm agreeing 🤣

I think I was just pondering what the cause of people's assumption that it's a scope break test, in spite of that clearly not being the case.
 
Good lord folks I'm agreeing 🤣

I think I was just pondering what the cause of people's assumption that it's a scope break test, in spite of that clearly not being the case.
Folks that can't / don't bother to read? They SEE a scope being dropped and think its truly about dropping a scope (hence the "I never drop my gun or fall posts") while ignoring the written intent that Form has seen a correlation that scopes which can handle the drop test don't have wandering zero's when bouncing around in trucks/side by sides/general hunting bumps and vibration. The drop test is just an accelerated narrowing down of which scopes to truly validate long term, it is not gospel, its just a correlation and expediency test which someone is documenting for free.
 
There's a 100% correlation to failing Form's drop (A) and losing zero riding around in a boat/truck/atv/mule team/whatever (B) from what I can glean. I'm not dropping mine that hard, and I'm not gluing my action in either, but it's cool to know someone has done that in order to find out B. If a person doesn't want the ZT/S2H there are other survivors available. Or just buy a nice, light Leupold and go with that. They have a pretty good warranty.
As your post points out, warranties don't do you any good when you have a failure a day or two walk/ride out of the back country on a hunt of a lifetime that you have been applying or saving for for years. My bighorn tag was 20+ years in 5 or 6 states of applying. I had a backup rifle with me but you don't always have that opportunity. I've not had a failure yet, but why take a chance if you can minimize the chance of failure with a different scope whether the S2H or something else. Just my opinion.
 
I thought the deposit page was still up for the next run?

But going to the sight I cant find it anymore?
 
Thanks for the heads up on this. I haven't been on the Hide much for a while as the noise-to-signal ratio was often too high.

From the first couple of pages of that thread, interesting to see how many people are making negative comments in a way that shows they haven't looked at the details about the scope, appear to have an axe to grind, and so on.

And good to see a few Roksliders in there being calm, stating facts, and holding their own. Good job.
 
Snipershide had multiple chances to not be a useless shithole over the years but could never get there

I do agree that the brand didn’t inspire confidence, nor did the one page add web page. But the reality is I’m hoping the brand doesn’t have shit to do with the actual scope and understand that the preorder is just that, and most scopes come to the market ready to go with much larger marketing teams.

I dislike that this model seems indistinguishable within the product naming scheme in ZT from what appears to be, unfortunately, a lot of borderline junk scopes
 
I guess my point is there is a laid out format that form uses for testing. Maybe, have someone not directly associated to the project independently do that test? Which I'm sure will happen but that will take a purchaser to go out and do it on their own as I haven't gotten a response from anyone that a scope or two would be provided to anyone to independently perform the test.

I really don't think what I'm saying here is out of line.

Would you be comfortable with me doing it?
 
I don't know, last few pages I got a 24-hour campfire vibe.

2 sniper bros bitching each other out about who knows what. Then one guy is saying the other is bashing the owner. The other guy calling some guy name Ilya out. Rokslide is paying people to come out and prove their scopes. They completely forgot about this scope.
I'm predicting a dual by page 10

Hell, reading that was like at night in my life at work.
I work with all women :LOL:
 
@RancherJohn Any thoughts from you or anyone else in the class on the hashmarks above the main center dot? With the removal of the aim short dot, it’s one area I’ve wondered if it would have been better to just remove them to reduce clutter.

That said, In comparison to the Minox, it looks like the topmost hash mark is where the aim short dot should be, so now I’m wondering if most users will just keep that in the back of their minds to use it that way in the field.
 
This thread really does not need to devolve into what other people on other forums think about RokSlide.

100% truth.

And yet, I'm still going to say this: That thread legit made me grateful for our moderators and the rules & norms here.

I've seen more wisdom and value in cesspool roadside ditches of 3rd world $h*tholes after goat butchering and blowfly infestations, than I did in that damned SH thread. It was an abomination of behavior, and a pristine example of why most gun forums are just degenerate wastes of time.
 
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