ZeroTech TRACE ADV 3-18×44 FFP Shoot2Hunt

[bullmtn]

Obviously loss of zero is a critical failure of the purpose of a scope, I was trying to illustrate the types of failure that "drop test approved" scopes share with scopes that can't hold zero; ie: don't drop them from 10ft on concrete.

What I'm trying to say is that there's seemingly a misconception out there that the drop tests aren't testing the scope's true usability, tracking, and function, but rather testing the scopes ability to fall out of a plane.

If you don't read the evaluations and assume that the scopes in the drop test are being slammed down on concrete that's on you. You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into. People are brand loyal and get their feelers hurt especially when gear they put their hard-earned money into does not perform how they believe it should.

 

[mlevimadden]

Obviously loss of zero is a critical failure of the purpose of a scope, I was trying to illustrate the types of failure that "drop test approved" scopes share with scopes that can't hold zero; ie: don't drop them from 10ft on concrete.

What I'm trying to say is that there's seemingly a misconception out there that the drop tests aren't testing the scope's true usability, tracking, and function, but rather testing the scopes ability to fall out of a plane.

There's a huge difference between can't hold zero or breaks when dropped from head height onto concrete (SWFA) versus can't hold zero from being tipped over from bipod height or riding in a truck down a bumpy road (Leupy VX3). One of those is a very common occurrence in the use case of backcountry hunting; the other is not.

 

[gbflyer]

There's a 100% correlation to failing Form's drop (A) and losing zero riding around in a boat/truck/atv/mule team/whatever (B) from what I can glean. I'm not dropping mine that hard, and I'm not gluing my action in either, but it's cool to know someone has done that in order to find out B. If a person doesn't want the ZT/S2H there are other survivors available. Or just buy a nice, light Leupold and go with that. They have a pretty good warranty.

 

[9487329]

Good lord folks I'm agreeing

I think I was just pondering what the cause of people's assumption that it's a scope break test, in spite of that clearly not being the case.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Good lord folks I'm agreeing

I think I was just pondering what the cause of people's assumption that it's a scope break test, in spite of that clearly not being the case.

Folks that can't / don't bother to read? They SEE a scope being dropped and think its truly about dropping a scope (hence the "I never drop my gun or fall posts") while ignoring the written intent that Form has seen a correlation that scopes which can handle the drop test don't have wandering zero's when bouncing around in trucks/side by sides/general hunting bumps and vibration. The drop test is just an accelerated narrowing down of which scopes to truly validate long term, it is not gospel, its just a correlation and expediency test which someone is documenting for free.

 

[tstowater]

There's a 100% correlation to failing Form's drop (A) and losing zero riding around in a boat/truck/atv/mule team/whatever (B) from what I can glean. I'm not dropping mine that hard, and I'm not gluing my action in either, but it's cool to know someone has done that in order to find out B. If a person doesn't want the ZT/S2H there are other survivors available. Or just buy a nice, light Leupold and go with that. They have a pretty good warranty.

As your post points out, warranties don't do you any good when you have a failure a day or two walk/ride out of the back country on a hunt of a lifetime that you have been applying or saving for for years. My bighorn tag was 20+ years in 5 or 6 states of applying. I had a backup rifle with me but you don't always have that opportunity. I've not had a failure yet, but why take a chance if you can minimize the chance of failure with a different scope whether the S2H or something else. Just my opinion.

 

[Waynorth]

Did @ZeroTech Optics or anyone else confirm that they are doing an out of US preorder or start selling this scope?

 

[tipsntails7]

I thought the deposit page was still up for the next run?

But going to the sight I cant find it anymore?

 

[nm.otter]

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[Gonewest]

Which other forums? I dont visit any of them except a local Az one. Is there really talk of people hoping this fails?

Rifle Scopes - Rokslide Scope

https://www.shoot2hunt.com/product/zerotech-trace-adv-3-18x44-ffp-shoot2hunt/ 500 of these sold out in less than 90 minutes with a modified THRL reticle. Drop Test approved.

www.snipershide.com

 

[Shortschaf]

Rifle Scopes - Rokslide Scope

https://www.shoot2hunt.com/product/zerotech-trace-adv-3-18x44-ffp-shoot2hunt/ 500 of these sold out in less than 90 minutes with a modified THRL reticle. Drop Test approved.

www.snipershide.com

I wouldnt encourage anyone read that

 

[Dobermann]

Rifle Scopes - Rokslide Scope

https://www.shoot2hunt.com/product/zerotech-trace-adv-3-18x44-ffp-shoot2hunt/ 500 of these sold out in less than 90 minutes with a modified THRL reticle. Drop Test approved.

www.snipershide.com

Thanks for the heads up on this. I haven't been on the Hide much for a while as the noise-to-signal ratio was often too high.

From the first couple of pages of that thread, interesting to see how many people are making negative comments in a way that shows they haven't looked at the details about the scope, appear to have an axe to grind, and so on.

And good to see a few Roksliders in there being calm, stating facts, and holding their own. Good job.

 

[DangerRanger]

Snipershide had multiple chances to not be a useless shithole over the years but could never get there

I do agree that the brand didn’t inspire confidence, nor did the one page add web page. But the reality is I’m hoping the brand doesn’t have shit to do with the actual scope and understand that the preorder is just that, and most scopes come to the market ready to go with much larger marketing teams.

I dislike that this model seems indistinguishable within the product naming scheme in ZT from what appears to be, unfortunately, a lot of borderline junk scopes

 

[Q_Sertorius]

This thread really does not need to devolve into what other people on other forums think about RokSlide.

 

[sndmn11]

I guess my point is there is a laid out format that form uses for testing. Maybe, have someone not directly associated to the project independently do that test? Which I'm sure will happen but that will take a purchaser to go out and do it on their own as I haven't gotten a response from anyone that a scope or two would be provided to anyone to independently perform the test.

I really don't think what I'm saying here is out of line.

Would you be comfortable with me doing it?