Wyoming nonresident proposal

[Fatcamp]

You can still use the public lands in wyoming in other ways. There is excellent pine squirrel hunting, rock collection, and wild flower viewing there.

We took a trip to our hunting area last summer. Hot as sin. Never saw another person.

Flowers, rocks, velvet bucks, elk. Best trip ever.

 

[wapitibob]

Legislative Update – Sept. 29, 2022

The taskforce also examined the special draw statutes for nonresident deer, elk and antelope. The taskforce voted on and approved a recommendation to the Wyoming Legislature to increase the nonresident special license fee to $1,950 for elk and $1,200 for deer and antelope. Currently, the special...

subletteexaminer.com

50/50 is coming.

september article
50/50 was tossed out

 

[BarCO]

Tag prices do not really matter as a a NR I can’t hunt WY each year anyways. So I budget for a higher tag every few years and spend $40 or so each year in CO. Personally going to burn my WY points and then shift to AK and Canada for my bigger trips each year as costs get closer.

 

[Fatcamp]

september article
50/50 was tossed out

It'll be back and we all know it.

 

[cgasner1]

They should of had someone who understands what this will change write that article


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[wapitibob]

It'll be back and we all know it.

failed 3 times so far, It'll be back in 4-5 years

 

[Fatcamp]

failed 3 times so far, It'll be back in 4-5 years

I don't think so. I think they are headed down a path of putting wealthy guided hunters above regular guys coming out for a hunt, and there is no slowing it down.

Look at how many threads get started here by people looking for guide reccomendations. Western hunting is changing and trading money for effort, just like everything else in society, is where it's headed.

Of course I could be totally wrong, but I doubt it.

 

[wapitibob]

It has to go thru the legislature, next session where it could pass is 2025.

 

[Flyjunky]

At some point in the not so distant future there will be a need to raise resident fees substantially, it's inevitable, and I can't imagine the uproar that will cause on here.

 

[Trackerbacker]

At some point in the not so distant future there will be a need to raise resident fees substantially, it's inevitable, and I can't imagine the uproar that will cause on here.

(Opening up Google calendar.......Sept 19th 2027...check back on this thread on a forum)

I can't wait

 

[TheTone]

Be sure to thank residents and outfitters for the increase in prices and possible decrease in nonresident allocation %

 

[Archer86]

Be sure to thank residents and outfitters for the increase in prices and possible decrease in nonresident allocation %

Residents had nothing to do with it.

It was a task force schem for outfitted NR. I would say nr had more to do with it then residents as some on here want to see this go through as they think it will increase there draw odds when it doesn't the outfitter draw will be brought back up.

 

[TheTone]

Residents had nothing to do with it.

It was a task force schem for outfitted NR. I would say nr had more to do with it then residents as some on here want to see this go through as they think it will increase there draw odds when it doesn't the outfitter draw will be brought back up.

Who was the push to even start the task force? I don’t think outfitters were the push to go to 90:10 but instead residents that wanted more
opportunities

 

[wapitibob]

I believe the TF seed was planted at a commission meeting when they were stuck on a topic but I don't remember what that topic was.

 

[Maverick1]

Slippin' Jimmy

 

[Archer86]

Who was the push to even start the task force? I don’t think outfitters were the push to go to 90:10 but instead residents that wanted more
opportunities

It doesn't matter how the task force was created.
This is not about 90 10 that is dead the outfitter always wanted that to get a outfitter draw through.

This price increase on nr is not being pushed by resident hunters some may not care about the increase but is being pushed by outfitters for nr you can try and flip it how ever you want but but it is the fault of nr hunters that use a guide and some nr diy that think this will help there draw odds. Once it doesn't help a outfitter draw will get a bigger push and next time resident might as well use it to there advantage

 

[wytx]

Residents did not push for the WTF.

Funny this is just now coming up on here, on yeah you booted off the guy that kept all up to date in these issues.
Perhaps making comments when the time was open would have been productive, more so than just grousing on a forum and blaming residents.
Go to the WTF and click on meeting materials and then you cam see how many residents are in favor of this, not many.

Resident prices are not in danger of getting raised significantly, sorry to burst that bubble. Most residents would pay more for better hunting but until numbers change that will not happen. Some just will not support price increases, and that is sad.

Not in favor at all to this increase, outfitters do not need support from WG&F.
They will sell every NR elk licenses, regardless of price.

 

[Trackerbacker]

Residents did not push for the WTF.

Funny this is just now coming up on here, on yeah you booted off the guy that kept all up to date in these issues.
Perhaps making comments when the time was open would have been productive, more so than just grousing on a forum and blaming residents.
Go to the WTF and click on meeting materials and then you cam see how many residents are in favor of this, not many.

Resident prices are not in danger of getting raised significantly, sorry to burst that bubble. Most residents would pay more for better hunting but until numbers change that will not happen. Some just will not support price increases, and that is sad.

Not in favor at all to this increase, outfitters do not need support from WG&F.
They will sell every NR elk licenses, regardless of price.

lets say wyoming sees $10,000,000 from resident hunt license from 300 people and $30,000,000 from NR from 100 people.

what do you think wy.gov will do if they go from grossing $40,000,000 to maybe $20,000,000.

do you think they will increase the NR tags?
R tags?
NR fees?
R fees?

face it...they will want to make up any difference somewhere. they are quickly approaching pricing out NR's..who will be left?

 

[wytx]

NR licenses will get sold, all of them.
We shall see but I do not see any NR licenses getting left on the table.
NR fees will go up until they reach the tipping point then stay the course.
Yes , resident fees may go up but not much.
NRs will still buy licenses at the proposed cost. I think we may see an increase in Special license apps if more are thinking they are guaranteed a licenses due to cost.
Lots of folks with the income to buy, us averege folks not so much but plenty of high rollers out there. Just look at numbers auction tags generate, plenty of folks will buy at $1200+

 

[tdhanses]

Residents did not push for the WTF.

Funny this is just now coming up on here, on yeah you booted off the guy that kept all up to date in these issues.
Perhaps making comments when the time was open would have been productive, more so than just grousing on a forum and blaming residents.
Go to the WTF and click on meeting materials and then you cam see how many residents are in favor of this, not many.

Resident prices are not in danger of getting raised significantly, sorry to burst that bubble. Most residents would pay more for better hunting but until numbers change that will not happen. Some just will not support price increases, and that is sad.

Not in favor at all to this increase, outfitters do not need support from WG&F.
They will sell every NR elk licenses, regardless of price.

That same guy that got booted was in favor of this, most of the things he was in favor of the task force has taken into consideration and discussed, guess it helps he has the task forces ear?

My guess is the avg resident does’t care what happens to the NR, they are more concerned with outfitter welfare overall, to a point, as many will have family and friends that work in the industry and want to see them continue to do what they enjoy.

The increase in cost for a tag is minimal for the overall cost of an outfitted hunt even with the increase.