Would you gamble on a gen 4 Tundra?

If it can't safely handle a gooseneck pin its just an SUV with a box.

That's right, I said it. 😐
Said what? Half ton trucks aren’t meant to haul 5th wheels? I guess you’re right but didn’t realize people were arguing it…
 
Said what? Half ton trucks aren’t meant to haul 5th wheels? I guess you’re right but didn’t realize people were arguing it…

Guys that drive pickups with 8-lug wheels, there’s something about Toyota that makes them really insecure and irritable. I try to empathize; I imagine the maintenance cost, continual recalls, warranty cost, and bad resale value can be quite taxing.
 
If you had a truck for twenty years and only put 110k on it, then I'm jealous. I drive that many miles in 3.5 - 4 years. It looks like the MSRP on new F450's is 80 - 110k, so that's not really an apples to apples comparison.
That 06 I just sold had 125k on it. Didn’t drive it much since it was a show truck. Being 20 years old and low miles I actually got more for the truck then it cost brand new. Crazy what pre emmisons diesel bring.

That being said I’ve made my living doing rebuilds on common rails. One hanging injector takes out an entire engine. I’ve rebuild 100s over the last 20 years.

Are the reliable, ya decently but nothing compared to the mechanical injection engines before hand. Rarely will a common rail make 500k without a major rebuild. I’ve literally seen dozens of 12-24 valve mechanical injection trucks with over 1 mil millions on the factory built engine.
 
That 06 I just sold had 125k on it. Didn’t drive it much since it was a show truck. Being 20 years old and low miles I actually got more for the truck then it cost brand new. Crazy what pre emmisons diesel bring.
Yeah it would've been nice if the government hadn't got involved with diesel pickups and screwed things up. I haven't owned one in a while but I my 2011 F250 with the 6.7 was a lot of fun after I had it deleted and straight piped. I've heard it's hard to even find anyone to do that these days.
 
Yeah it would've been nice if the government hadn't got involved with diesel pickups and screwed things up. I haven't owned one in a while but I my 2011 F250 with the 6.7 was a lot of fun after I had it deleted and straight piped. I've heard it's hard to even find anyone to do that these days.
Ya I won’t own another modern day one. I’ve had prolly 15 second and 3rd gen. I think my truck buying, fixing, flipping days are over. Just lost interest over the years.

Was able to pay the tundra off selling this last one so I’m good for awhile. Time to get the kids in the woods and on the lakes!
 
Guys that drive pickups with 8-lug wheels, there’s something about Toyota that makes them really insecure and irritable. I try to emphasize; I imagine the maintenance cost, continual recalls, warranty cost, and bad resale value can be quite taxing.

I'm still mad at Toyota over the whole Tundra SUV payload thing.

I had my truck picked out, I was so excited, and then figured out that it's ability to haul weight is slightly better than a Honda Civic. I was crushed. Was gonna have matching Tundra and 4runner. Ended up buying a stoopid F250 cuz, "pin weight." It has needed nothing and is worth what I paid for it in 2020.

Still mad. I'd rather buy a Buick minivan than one of those things. At least the mini van serves a purpose.
 
Toyota stands behind their products, (cue some dude whining about his leaf springs) I wouldn’t be worried.
What is it about facts you find so threatening?
I feel like Scott Jennings on this thread...LOL
 
What is it about facts you find so threatening?
I feel like Scott Jennings on this thread...LOL

Its like a fly to shit every single Toyota post.

Toyota gave me new leaf springs for free when I complained about them squeaking. Then I promptly took them off and put OME's on it.
 
Its like a fly to shit every single Toyota post.

Toyota gave me new leaf springs for free when I complained about them squeaking. Then I promptly took them off and put OME's on it.
That's because I paved the way by telling them their springs were sh!t, which they arrogantly denied.

You're welcome.

OME's minus the third leaf is what should have been on there to begin with.
 
The rear leaf packs, the rust issue, and the 3.0L are the only bad marks on Toyota'a resume, and you have to go back decades to get to those.

Meanwhile, Ford is issuing new recalls on what seems like a monthly basis, and now they will openly state in the notification letter that there is a safety risk and they have no solution, standby.
 
The rear leaf packs, the rust issue, and the 3.0L are the only bad marks on Toyota'a resume, and you have to go back decades to get to those.

Meanwhile, Ford is issuing new recalls on what seems like a monthly basis, and now they will openly state in the notification letter that there is a safety risk and they have no solution, standby.
If 2016 and 2017 were decades ago, you're absolutely right.
The problems go back much further but they refused to acknowledge them until threatened with a class-action lawsuit.
 
If 2016 and 2017 were decades ago, you're absolutely right.
The problems go back much further but they refused to acknowledge them until threatened with a class-action lawsuit.
I think you’re right. But youre so fast to beat up Toyota and black list them forever while recommending ford’s. Do you remember the 6.0 debacle? Why haven’t you written off ford? I promise more people got burned by that piece of shit than the rust issues on the Tacoma beds.

My point being, if you took all the black eyes that Toyota and ford have had since 2005, who would have more by percentage? Nobody can argue ford has a laundry list…so why do they get a pass?
 
I think you’re right. But youre so fast to beat up Toyota and black list them forever while recommending ford’s. Do you remember the 6.0 debacle? Why haven’t you written off ford? I promise more people got burned by that piece of shit than the rust issues on the Tacoma beds.

My point being, if you took all the black eyes that Toyota and ford have had since 2005, who would have more by percentage? Nobody can argue ford has a laundry list…so why do they get a pass?
Ford has it's share...My friend bought a used 2018 Edge 2.0 Eco with 88k miles...coolant in the cylinders=new engine on Ford's dime.
I guess Ford gets a pass because they aren't a cult of fanbois that parade around on pavement with their snorkels and overwattage amber foglights begging for attention and are actually capable of work without mods.
BTW: It was Tundra bed rust, Tacoma frame rust and springs...And to make the point again, Toyota flat out denied any problem until faced with a class-action lawsuit then denied my reimbursement when I had all receipts because I didn't HAVE THE DEALER DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM....Still unbelievable to me.
 
Ford has it's share...My friend bought a used 2018 Edge 2.0 Eco with 88k miles...coolant in the cylinders=new engine on Ford's dime.
I guess Ford gets a pass because they aren't a cult of fanbois that parade around on pavement with their snorkels and overwattage amber foglights begging for attention and are actually capable of work without mods.
What about the toolbags with their 20ā€ exhaust caps rolling coal with their tow mirrors extended while making trips to the local brewery?

There’s not a brand out there that doesn’t have a segment of owners that give the brand a bad name. That shouldn’t impact one’s feelings on the durability of a vehicle.
 
The problems go back much further but they refused to acknowledge them until threatened with a class-action lawsuit.
Who cares? The OME Dakars are the springs to get, and it's a cheap fix.

I wish my Ford had only a single issue and it was that cheap and simple to address. Instead, I'll wind up paying more money to replace the Ford TPMS sensors than I paid for the new leaf packs I put in my Tacoma. For some reason, Toyota can make TPMS sensors that last over 10 years and are still working, but Ford can only make them to last about 5 years before they stop working and need replacing. This is just one of many similar items.
 
What about the toolbags with their 20ā€ exhaust caps rolling coal with their tow mirrors extended while making trips to the local brewery?

There’s not a brand out there that doesn’t have a segment of owners that give the brand a bad name. That shouldn’t impact one’s feelings on the durability of a vehicle.
True...Let's throw 90% of Harley riders in the mix...But to deny that Toyota needs mods right of the lot to do anything but soccer practice is ignoring the idea of a truck.
 
Who cares? The OME Dakars are the springs to get, and it's a cheap fix.

I wish my Ford had only a single issue and it was that cheap and simple to address. Instead, I'll wind up paying more money to replace the Ford TPMS sensors than I paid for the new leaf packs I put in my Tacoma. For some reason, Toyota can make TPMS sensors that last over 10 years and are still working, but Ford can only make them to last about 5 years before they stop working and need replacing. This is just one of many similar items.
Who cares?
People that think a 'truck' shouldn't need aftermarket support to haul a couple hundred pounds.
Toyota markets to an image, not strength.
Again, I feel like a Republican on The View arguing with Whoopi and Joy.
 
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