Would you buy this scope?

[WyoWild]

Maven’s CS is lousy. Both times I called with questions I got either outright lies, or someone speaking without proper knowledge.

Exact opposite of my experience. They have been extremely helpful in my interactions.

 

[nm.otter]

From what I understand there are two branches to their gear lines. The higher tier stuff is Japanese manufactured and finished in Australia, the lower tier stuff is Chinese.

This is also interesting. Fix the reticle and it could be a winner.

Also, please give us an option with a fixed wide-angle eyepiece -- and don't make me buy the zoom version and then pay extra to replace the eyepiece.

 

[Dobermann]

For everyone that is so concerned about who the partner is in the scope...

If the scope delivers everything you asked for and more, and meets your expectations based on Forms testing, at the price point that you're willing to invest...

Why does it matter who the partner company is?

If they never reveal who it is, are you NOT going to buy the scope?

If it's a company you don't care for... Are you Not going to buy the scope? Even after it's proven?

Good questions ... but was all covered a few pages ago.

Sheesh - it's as if you have something better to do than read all 2765 preceding posts!

 

[Dobermann]

Look at Maven for example, they build 1 scope that works and deny the fact that it's internals are different from their others. Dismissing the results of testing all together. They can pound sand in my book.

And it wasn't just that they dismissed the eval results, but they said something dismissive/derogatory about Rokslide/Roksliders overall. I can't now remember the exact quote - and have better things to do than go hunting for it, but perhaps someone quoted their exact words here. Pound sand indeed.

Which is a shame, because that scope still fills a niche, and it would have been nice to refer people to them without any qualms.

 

[SDHNTR]

Exact opposite of my experience. They have been extremely helpful in my interactions.

Oh, they were kind and prompt and I’m sure they thought they were being helpful, they just gave out factually incorrect information.

 

[Dobermann]

I really hope this scope will be available in Canada!

Covered earlier; answer is yes.

 

[DLIP]

It is almost certainly my ineptitude but I can’t find the pictures and specs of this scope. Can someone tell me what page?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

It is almost certainly my ineptitude but I can’t find the pictures and specs of this scope. Can someone tell me what page?

Search this thread for posts by Form.

 

[nm.otter]

I dunno how yall managed to pull this off for a $1k scope.

By selling it at a reasonable margin instead of concocting an artificially high list price to fatten up two layers of distribution on the way to the consumer, then add 50% LE/mil discounts.

 

[khuber84]

I'm liking this scope from what I'm seeing, glad it went to 18x.
Hard specs?
Fov °?
Fov in feet 100y 3x and 18x?
Total travel?
See it's 12.5" and 25oz on prototype.
Maybe a sticky is needed in optics forum for actual rokscope data, pics, reticle, evals VS everyone drooling or nit picking. 5 pages I went through and saw maybe 5 informative posts.

 

[alexnelon]

By selling it at a reasonable margin instead of concocting an artificially high list price to fatten up two layers of distribution on the way to the consumer, then add 50% LE/mil discounts.

Yup.

People would truly not believe the mfg margins on stuff.

One example is milk. From buying raw milk, processing (homogenize & pasteurize), to packaging and distributing, and paying everyone along the way, it costs about 19 cents to put a gallon of milk on the shelf.

 

[BBob]

It is almost certainly my ineptitude but I can’t find the pictures and specs of this scope. Can someone tell me what page?

They are scattered, wait till Dillo finds the time to post them up on a dedicated page or search this thread using his user name.

 

[tim tarras]

@Formidilosus is the lighted dot have a green option?

TIA

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus is the lighted dot have a green option?

TIA

No sir. It’s a very simple push button illum.


For those wondering, the illum adds less than .5 ounce.

 

[5MilesBack]

That is one sexy sight picture. And this one is too! Makes me want to go out and shoot something.

 

[khuber84]

Yup.

People would truly not believe the mfg margins on stuff.

One example is milk. From buying raw milk, processing (homogenize & pasteurize), to packaging and distributing, and paying everyone along the way, it costs about 19 cents to put a gallon of milk on the shelf.

But raw milk from a rancher (or dairy that'll sell for non-human consumption) is $6 a gallon, cuz I've sought and bought it. So a market is truly set by what a customer is willing to pay.......nothing to do with cost of production.

 

[alexnelon]

But raw milk from a rancher (or dairy that'll sell for non-human consumption) is $6 a gallon, cuz I've sought and bought it. So a market is truly set by what a customer is willing to pay.......nothing to do with cost of production.

I'm out of the dairy game nowadays but I bet you could get that down a little from $6/gallon if you signed an agreement to buy 250,000,000 gallons over 10 years

 

[Castle Rock]

if you have enuff rail......

Or ring, I build my own…..

 

[wapitispokes]

I'm out of the dairy game nowadays but I bet you could get that down a little from $6/gallon if you signed an agreement to buy 250,000,000 gallons over 10 years

As long as we are joking aorund.....I'm not so sure about that...the dairy would then be locked into a fixed price contract to sell a commodity subject to variable price inputs and no market to hedge input costs beyond a relatively short time. The odds of financial distress arising from a mismatch of volatile commodity input costs and fixed price sales contracts will likely be followed by dissolution of the contract before the end of term. The only longer term, imperfect, hedge on the cost of milk production is ownership of land to grow your own feed and large dairies (I mean really large) don't have that much land.... Don't ask me how I know. LOL.

 

[Formidilosus]

No matter how good the new scope is, this hurts…