Would you buy this scope?

[Sled]

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That's a chain in the fire world.

 

[Formidilosus]

Got back just before dark. Rushed it and mounted one up and commenced to shooting.

Groups initially were odd and larger than the guns norm. Stringing, or seeming to jump poi. Finally unmounted, and remounted scope. Groups were a bit smaller, but still not quite right.

But, with almost no light left I went ahead and attempted the drop Eval. Top left is 8 shots. Adjusted up .1 mil, and left .1. Drop eval is center dot. This one was conducted on solid frozen ground, and a single 1/2” mat (not two pads). The 9x36” drops shifted off the dot (#7). Went to the bottom center and fired three- all centered. Hmmmm. Went to the pads and drops 4 times or so from shoulder to head height, then 2-3 times from shoulder height on the frozen ground (bottom left). The third shot went more left, and I noticed the buttstock wiggling.




The screw that holds the buttstock onto the main chassis had gotten loose.

So, inconclusive.

Got back to the house, tightened that up and will eval all three properly tomorrow.

 

[JDZ]

We don’t have the scopes yet. I can’t give any information like that without seeing them.

You mentioned eye relief is good as well as eye box. Excited to hear more and comparisons when you get it mounted to a rifle. Eye relief spec should simply be a calculation by the manufacturer.

If there’s been any talk of the realm of coatings and glare reduction, I’ve missed it.

Also will be interested to see dimensions, like mounting length and optical bell length, for those of us that still like using old rifles with long actions without pic rails. (I know…)

 

[JDZ]

That's a chain in the fire world.

A chain is 4 rods. 66 feet.

A link is 7.92 inches and a chain is 100 links.

 

[waspocrew]

I'm definitely not an early adopter by any means, so I'll probably sit the first wave out. I'm very interested in this scope though. All my scopes are MOA, but this would tip me over into trying MIL finally haha.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Actually parallax in yards, at least in America is quite useful. Yes I realize parallax really needs to be dialed in but in matches or on the clock it is certainly acceptable and faster to dial to the approximated yardage on the parallax knob that corresponds to the range finder or match card. Fine tuning it for when you have lots of time static shooting. In short, I prefer yards for parallax (here in America) which is a measure of distance and mils for the adjustments which is a measure of angle. The only match I have been to that was a complete shit show was with a bunch of fed boys that wanted to play in Meters but couldn't keep gear straight between the American standard of yard in rangefinders and dope cards and the target distances in meters. Unfortunately they are not interchangeable.

Sharpie the m out

 

[Sled]

A chain is 4 rods. 66 feet.

A link is 7.92 inches and a chain is 100 links.

Yeah, sorry. I skimmed the post and saw the 66' in there and it caught my eye. When you drag your bare hand through enough black dirt, a chain or a chain and a half is beat into you.

 

[pathnz]

I have found the parallax turret markings sufficiently accurate and useful that I worried about whether the generic numbers were denominated in metres or yards on the following list of scopes:

 

[Stinky Coyote]

2nd reticle?

Lookin good for the diallers so far. If the south looked like the east west I’d be wanting to try one. The 2-8 sounds killer. Love the white tape big black markers as attempt to see to dial lol. Also sharpie the .1’s good idea, or black out and just put a thick-ish half bar on the half’s but yeah the wholes still too small.

Ordered atacr 1-8 dmx and nx8 goes to my backup. Don’t see anything yet that I want more.

 

[Castle Rock]

Tagging in now I know that I can get one

 

[JCMCUBIC]

Actually parallax in yards, at least in America is quite useful. Yes I realize parallax really needs to be dialed in but in matches or on the clock it is certainly acceptable and faster to dial to the approximated yardage on the parallax knob that corresponds to the range finder or match card. Fine tuning it for when you have lots of time static shooting. In short, I prefer yards for parallax (here in America) which is a measure of distance and mils for the adjustments which is a measure of angle. The only match I have been to that was a complete shit show was with a bunch of fed boys that wanted to play in Meters but couldn't keep gear straight between the American standard of yard in rangefinders and dope cards and the target distances in meters. Unfortunately they are not interchangeable.

On the Y vs M for parallax...generally... As shooters, we refer to adjustments in units of angle. Those units of angle do have a linear measurement at a set distance. We "roughly" think of it as follows:

MOA linear adjustment = ~1/4" @ 100 yards

MIL linear adjustment = ~1 cm @ 100 meters

If you see an M on the parallax, most likely, the linear adjustment distance is 100 meters (~109 yards) instead of 100 yards.

 

[JCMCUBIC]

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Im willing to face any man on earth toe to toe.

Consider this your warning... I have nail fungus on my right big toe. You have been warned.

 

[tstowater]

I doubt anyone is waiting for Form to post any results today. Maybe I'm wrong.