Would you buy this scope?

[Formidilosus]

So is this a real scope, or just a dream and we're being optics teased?
Cause the truth is, you already know our answer.

Yes, Ryan is trying to make it real- but companies don’t believe anyone will buy a scope like this.

 

[ChrisAU]

I’ll buy 2 day one, and if they live up to the hype they’d be all I buy for a long time.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

An 8x50mm fixed power is exactly what I personally desire- however that’s a niche and won’t be sought first.

As for 3-4x on the low end- a 6x bottom end magnification variable is DOA as a hunting scope.

10-4.

 

[5811]

Yes, Ryan is trying to make it real- but companies don’t believe anyone will buy a scope like this.

Do you get a sense for what part of this scope they push back on most?

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Yes, Ryan is trying to make it real- but companies don’t believe anyone will buy a scope like this.

I’d love to think that Nightforce would, but I doubt it would achieve the price range that we’re looking for, even if they were up for it.

I’d say it would be a LOW/Kamakura company. Maven seems clueless, despite their success with the 1.2.

The company would have to understand and be on board with the project, not just skeptically building to Ryan’s specs.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

@Ryan Avery for purely gauging sales volume on the scope, report me down for 5 scopes per year for the first 3 years.

 

[rackcity24]

Scope specs:

FFP 3-12x40 to 3-12x44mm

Consistently holds zero through 3-foot drops and 3,000 rounds of constant use.

The reticle is specially designed for 25 to 600 yards, with bold outer posts and correct center aiming references.

Zero Stop

Low profile top turret.

Capped windage.

Large eye box

Good glass

20oz


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Yes

 

[Nine Banger]

I’d love to think that Nightforce would, but I doubt it would achieve the price range that we’re looking for, even if they were up for it.

Same...I'd pay $2000-2500 for an ATACR version of what Ryan describes.

This covers the green issues too, with the digilum reticle. Problem solved.

 

[Bluumoon]

Taking name suggestions yet?
“Slayer “ seems appropriate

 

[sndmn11]

and was under $1,500- would you buy it?

No

; and was under $1kwould you buy it?

Yes

 

[RyanT26]

Yes, Ryan is trying to make it real- but companies don’t believe anyone will buy a scope like this.

I understand Rokslide is a relatively small group of end users, but the Rokslide effect with maven RS1.2 seems to be very clear. You would think the data would be relatively easy to decipher for these companies

 

[Schmo]

The Rokslide effect on 77TMK, RS1.2, and Rokstok.

 

[sierracharlie338]

I’m in and if they held up could be all I bought for the foreseeable future.

 

[Formidilosus]

Do you get a sense for what part of this scope they push back on most?

The whole thing generally:

- Reliable/durable (not all)
- Simple
- Not high zoom ratio (6x plus)
- Normal magnification and not a 2-20x
- Correctly done FFP mil reticle that isn’t a tree or with donuts
- Low profile turrets with large numbers
- Eyebox over complicated design
-etc



Basically with very few exceptions, the people making decisions do not hunt seriously in broken terrain, don’t shoot very much- if they do it’s usually PRS, etc, etc. The idea that there is a market for a reliable and durable, mid power scope designed correctly with FFP mil reticle and turrets is ridiculous to them. They would rather compete with the 287 other scopes that chase 2-80x magnification and reticles that make no functional sense. Even when a scope company got it right, they can’t understand why it’s selling.

 

[Formidilosus]

I understand Rokslide is a relatively small group of end users, but the Rokslide effect with maven RS1.2 seems to be very clear. You would think the data would be relatively easy to decipher for these companies

Apparently even that company can’t grasp it.

 

[Walkstoomuch]

Absolutely. I'd purchase two right now and after some abuse would probably add two more. I'd be willing to "invest" or presale or whatever it takes to get this to happen.

I'd like to suggest the name Unicorn Slayer, please no rainbows in the marketing

 

[KJ_ND]

I'm in if it's below 1500. 2-10 and 3-12 are the best magnification range IMO. High base magnifications and high zoom ratios have presented more issues than benefits for my application ( Primarily deer inside 300 and coyotes inside 100.)

 

[Schmo]

@Ryan Avery and @Formidilosus,
Recently, an ammunition company brought a certain load to market because they got enough hand written letters from end users requesting such. Might there be an opportunity for us to do such? I’d gladly send a hand written letter to an optics company

 

[Grundy53]

I would buy several

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[Archer86]

Will it be available in a moa option also?