Wind shirts

[wildbill]

Need some education on the use of wind shirts compared to just using your rain jacket,this will be for a sheep hunt so watching the weight as much as possible. I’ve read in other post that some sheep hunter use them but it seems redundant, thanks in advance for any input

 

[204guy]

I really like my arcteryx squamish. It's a lot cooler hiking in a windshirt than a hardshell, I find it far more versatile than a hardshell. It'll give a bit of weather protection and takes a lot of wear and tear off your hardshell also.

 

[JohnB]

I use a Rab Boreas(Borealis?) for hiking, skiing and mtn biking and love it. I'd use it for hunting too but its neon blue. Another one that's well through of is the Black Diamond Alpine Start

 

[woods89]

One of my goals for next season is to have a BD Alpine Start. @mtwarden is who got me interested in them. He seems to have a lot of layering knowledge and is a big fan.

 

[204guy]

I like the alpine start also, but it's an ultra light soft shell and a fair bit heavier than a windshirt, comparatively speaking.

 

[woods89]

I like the alpine start also, but it's an ultra light soft shell and a fair bit heavier than a windshirt, comparatively speaking.

So, let's say you are walking away from the truck well before first light in Northern Co. Mid November, it's 20 degrees and blowing 15-25 mph. You are a person who sweats a lot and you have a 2 mile hike with a backpack on along a ridge to get to a glassing knob. The only layer under is a 150 wt baselayer.

Squamish or Alpine Start?

This is the situation I have in mind for it. I'd like all the info I can get!

 

[justinspicher]

I have one made by Patagonia in a dull grey and never use it. I dont have a use for one in my layering system. I’ve tried to make it work but it doesn’t make the cut.

 

[204guy]

So, let's say you are walking away from the truck well before first light in Northern Co. Mid November, it's 20 degrees and blowing 15-25 mph. You are a person who sweats a lot and you have a 2 mile hike with a backpack on along a ridge to get to a glassing knob. The only layer under is a 150 wt baselayer.

Squamish or Alpine Start?

This is the situation I have in mind for it. I'd like all the info I can get!

Probably sqaumish, but in those conditions I'd have more insulation under either one. I mostly use the squamish anymore, only place I'd rank the alpine start higher is durability but it's heavier so it should be.

 

[woods89]

Probably sqaumish, but in those conditions I'd have more insulation under either one. I mostly use the squamish anymore, only place I'd rank the alpine start higher is durability but it's heavier so it should be.

Thanks! I'm one of those people that sweats very easily so yes, I'm cold when I start. I'm fine after about 200 yds, though.

 

[Mudd Foot]

So, let's say you are walking away from the truck well before first light in Northern Co. Mid November, it's 20 degrees and blowing 15-25 mph. You are a person who sweats a lot and you have a 2 mile hike with a backpack on along a ridge to get to a glassing knob. The only layer under is a 150 wt baselayer.

Squamish or Alpine Start?

This is the situation I have in mind for it. I'd like all the info I can get!

If these are the conditions I’m facing then I wear a Kuiu 240 Peloton. IMO is a great combo of light insulation and wind blocker. The net temp you reference above is @ 10° and my Alpine Start Is not insulative. Stops wind great and breathes well though. Like mentioned above it does not have a place in my backpack hunting kit. BTW my XL weights 7oz.

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[Desk Jockey]

I have a Sitka flash pull over and another from a non hunting company I use for hiking. Both will shed a light rain or snow but they don’t have taped seems So aren’t as waterproof or wind proof as a full rain jacket.

I run a lightweight hiking set up where I use a convertible tarp poncho and a wind shirt. The wind shirt is a breathable outer layer that can take me up to a light rain. Add the poncho over that.

 

[woods89]

If these are the conditions I’m facing then I wear a Kuiu 240 Peloton. IMO is a great combo of light insulation and wind blocker. The net temp you reference above is @ 10° and my Alpine Start Is not insulative. Stops wind great and breathes well though. Like mentioned above it does not have a place in my backpack hunting kit. BTW my XL weights 7oz.

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Thanks for the reply!

It's crazy how we all react to conditions a little different. On reflection, lets make it 20-30 degrees, but if I were wearing a 240 wt fleece I'd be soaked in short order, I think. I have a Sitka midweight 1/4 zip for a mid layer. One morning in similar conditions I wore it over my base layer and it had to come off after a bit because I was sweating so bad.

Walking away from the trailhead in just a baselayer and an orange vest is miserable for me, but in about 200 yds I'm usually getting comfortable. Of course my backpack and bino harness cover quite a bit of real estate, especially since I'm not a very big guy.

I'm just looking to cut a little bit of that brutal wind. Sounds like you have your system figured out!

 

[Ryan Avery]

I take a EE Copperfield Wind Shirt on every outing I go on. It weights 3.5 oz after I seam sealed it. It can also take some rain now.

 

[Mudd Foot]

Thanks for the reply!

It's crazy how we all react to conditions a little different. On reflection, lets make it 20-30 degrees, but if I were wearing a 240 wt fleece I'd be soaked in short order, I think. I have a Sitka midweight 1/4 zip for a mid layer. One morning in similar conditions I wore it over my base layer and it had to come off after a bit because I was sweating so bad.

Walking away from the trailhead in just a baselayer and an orange vest is miserable for me, but in about 200 yds I'm usually getting comfortable. Of course my backpack and bino harness cover quite a bit of real estate, especially since I'm not a very big guy.

I'm just looking to cut a little bit of that brutal wind. Sounds like you have your system figured out!

FWIW, I removed merino base layers from my whitetail system as I soaked within several hundred yards of carrying the climber, backpack, and bow. Am now using lightweight synthetics as they dry in minutes. This is somewhat analogous to glassing: high exertion, followed by sitting.

Backpack hunting I use merino as I can cook it dry with the 240 or puffy when stopped.


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[wildbill]

The copperfeild is the one I have been eyeing. Essentially it is a very lightweight layer that cuts the wind but breaths much better than a hard shell,I’m guessing that would help in drying my base layers without having to change out after some hard climbs hopefully preventing getting chilled. How are they in the durability aspect. Thanks for all the input the clothing list is almost complete for August,can’t wait to hit the mountain

 

[AKDoc]

A few years ago my daughter bought me a Patagonia Houdini (color black) for Christmas. It's not something I would have bought (she has a pro-deal), but I've got to admit that I really like it and wear the heck out of it. Cuts the wind really well, super/ultra-light, and it tucks away into it's own pocket to the size of a big tube of tooth-paste. It is extremely versatile, and goes pretty much everywhere with me in the field. I'm a L in size, but got this in XL, which turned out to be a good move and added to the range of uses for me.

...and I'll replace it if it wears-out.

 

[RCL]

The Patagonia Houdini goes everywhere with me.
I normally wear medium but sized up to large.

 

[Ryan Avery]

The copperfeild is the one I have been eyeing. Essentially it is a very lightweight layer that cuts the wind but breaths much better than a hard shell,I’m guessing that would help in drying my base layers without having to change out after some hard climbs hopefully preventing getting chilled. How are they in the durability aspect. Thanks for all the input the clothing list is almost complete for August,can’t wait to hit the mountain

It’s not something I would wear busting brush . But it’s been more durable than the OR Helium 2 I replaced this with.


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[wind gypsy]

I use a Patagonia Houdini wind shirt frequently. Think I paid $50 for it from backpackinglight.com classifieds before I was aware that Patagonia supports organizations trying to end predator hunts. I’d look for a similar option from a different company if searching now. For 3.5 ounces it’s absolutely worth packing to use as an active wind blocker in lieu of your hard shell. I sweat a lot and can’t stand wearing rain gear if I’m putting out notable effort. Wore it most of my dall hunt last year.

 

[wildbill]

Wind,saw the houdini on your gear list that’s what caught my eye,just trying to get better understanding on how they work