Will 6 Creedmoor go the way of 7 SAUM?

[Leaf Litter]

No, but the 22 and 25 creeds will.

22 is too fast, bullets will come apart due to over revving.

25 is just a c-hair shy of the 6.5 and does absolutely nothing to improve ballistic over the 6.5. The difference of 6 grains bullet weight betwixt the two is nothing and BC figures are close enough that it doesn’t matter.

 

[Harvey_NW]

I think it's here to stay. The 243 might have more ammo offerings, but it's mostly lighter for caliber stuff nobody is interested in. All the 6 Creed offerings are either high BC, or optimized varmint loads. Tikka is missing out on a lot of sales right now because of this very topic.

 

[wind gypsy]

I have both the saum and the 6 creed and neither are hard to keep fed with ammo so whats it matter?

 

[N2TRKYS]

6 creed brass will always be easy to make even if it is no longer available with a 6 creed head stamp. I doubt that happens though.

I’m not talking about 6 Creedmoor.

 

[ckt3]

I think it's here to stay. The 243 might have more ammo offerings, but it's mostly lighter for caliber stuff nobody is interested in. All the 6 Creed offerings are either high BC, or optimized varmint loads. Tikka is missing out on a lot of sales right now because of this very topic.

Wonder if there will start to be some .243 factory loads with the heavier bullets. I can get a factory 8 twist .243, but the off-the-shelf ammo hasn’t really caught up yet.

Could there be an element of Hornady not wanting to offer that ammo (eg. 103 ELDX .243 Win) because it would compete directly with 6 Creed?

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

One of my favorite cartridges…

 

[ckt3]

One of my favorite cartridges…

Which? .243?

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

Which? .243?

6CM

 

[Refugium]

You didnt say you dont see an affordable, quality 6CM in your post. You said there are less and less options. So where are you getting the information that there are in fact less options for 6CM now than there was?

Fair point. My main goal is to ask the question, will the 6 Creed survive as a widely available option for the general public, or will it become a niche cartridge for hunting obsessed maniacs like us? My personal bias is for it to survive and gain in popularity/availability (which usually makes it more affordable). I also don't think support from low quality brands that usually require warranty work is really solid support. More likely it will be twighlighted by them as soon as the next marketing surge makes something else a better financial choice for their brand. That is my opinion, but I appreciate yours as well. I hope you are right!

 

[Refugium]

No, but the 22 and 25 creeds will.

22 is too fast, bullets will come apart due to over revving.

25 is just a c-hair shy of the 6.5 and does absolutely nothing to improve ballistic over the 6.5. The difference of 6 grains bullet weight betwixt the two is nothing and BC figures are close enough that it doesn’t matter.

I agree. I don't really get the point of the 25 CM. I do like 22 though. 22 ARC with the 88 grain even better.

 

[Refugium]

Wonder if there will start to be some .243 factory loads with the heavier bullets. I can get a factory 8 twist .243, but the off-the-shelf ammo hasn’t really caught up yet.

Could there be an element of Hornady not wanting to offer that ammo (eg. 103 ELDX .243 Win) because it would compete directly with 6 Creed?

You would think they would already be available in .243 though right?

 

[Refugium]

I have both the saum and the 6 creed and neither are hard to keep fed with ammo so whats it matter?

Fair point. Lets hope it stays that way.

 

[nm.otter]

The 6.5mm Creedmoor was a watershed design that rippled through the entire industry. The case design is excellent, to the point where wildcatters quickly started necking it down. Case capacity to bore area ratios changed, shifting the mix of applications where each one shined. SAAMI approvals followed. Using the same magazines, body sizing dies, go gauges, and the like has real value to everyone involved.

6mm GT has 15% less case capacity and is already seeing similar expansion of calibers.

PRC designs use different cases for each caliber. Some of the wildcats show a lot of promise, but I don't think the market has spoken yet there.

 

[CMP70306]

I agree. I don't really get the point of the 25 CM. I do like 22 though. 22 ARC with the 88 grain even better.

Pretty sure it showed up after Blackjack came out with their 131gr .257 bullet but the main purpose now is NRL Hunter where it meets power factor while having less recoil and better ballistics than a 6.5 Creedmoor due to the higher velocity of a lighter bullet.

Kind of the same way the 6.5 creed, 6.5 PRC, 6GT among dozens of other cartridges were all created to solve an issue in a specific competition and snowballed from there.

 

[Marbles]

Pretty sure it showed up after Blackjack came out with their 131gr .257 bullet but the main purpose now is NRL Hunter where it meets power factor while having less recoil and better ballistics than a 6.5 Creedmoor due to the higher velocity of a lighter bullet.

Kind of the same way the 6.5 creed, 6.5 PRC, 6GT among dozens of other cartridges were all created to solve an issue in a specific competition and snowballed from there.

And here I thought it was created because MOA only works with caliber and can't be used with them commi metric boolits. Which is also why 243 is better than 6 creed. Now a 243 Creedmoor, that would be the best of them all, too bad they don't make it.


Read in a retarded redneck voice, like you would expect from a coonass hillbilly.

 

[ckt3]

And here I thought it was created because MOA only works with caliber and can't be used with them commi metric boolits. Which is also why 243 is better than 6 creed. Now a 243 Creedmoor, that would be the best of them all, too bad they don't make it.


Read in a retarded redneck voice, like you would expect from a coonass hillbilly.

You might be onto something