Why i do not use floorless in warm weather.

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Meh, come to Australia.
I lived in Australia from 2010-2013. We were the first people to live in our house in Harrison, ACT. We killed hundreds of scorpions and spiders. Illegal to kill snakes in Australia, so I never did.

Saw a 9 foot king brown on time. Not a fan!

We live in New Mexico on the Texas/Mexico border. We kill scorpions, big spiders, little spiders and snakes regularly. I would never sleep in a floorless tent in New Mexico. Even in the mountains we have too many creepy crawlies.
 

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Wouldn't even think about a tent without a floor here.

Although I have camped open-air a few times in the NC mountains on open ground. And I guess a few times catfishing on a riverbank here and there ... But that was more like taking a nap ... And I always had a bottle of snake medicine, so I had that going for me, which was nice.

What do you do to fight off a snake that has crawled up your pants leg?

Not really sure, but be calm... Definitely don't show him you're nuts ...
Swampy is on RokSlide? Well, thats cool. How you been buddy??
 

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Copperheads seem to show up where they dont belong.
The only snake I've ever been bitten by.
Showed up in my Mom's garage, in the batt. compartment
of my son's electric 4 wheeler, Sept. of '07.
 

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First thing in the morning after a cool night. He was wrapped around
that warm, charging battery.
Thought I had got shocked when I stuck my hand down in there.
Little trickle of blood coming off my finger.
He's in a jar of alcohol today.
 
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I have had a rattler cuddle up next to my sleeping bag...they also come in to warm up by the fire.

^that was the last time I did not use a floored tent in warmer temp conditions.
 

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Yeah , thats nuts , I wouldn't be able to sleep after that . I'll have dreams of snakes tonight , thank you very much , LOL
 
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I agree with you on the floored tent and I don't have any snakes. I spent my career in the USBM with floored tents. Only once when I came into camp too late to set up. That was in Hells Canyon Idaho. A normal day was 100-200 rattlesnakes per mile. That night I slept on the top of my land cruiser.

For my career with the university, I bought a 4 man dome tent with a rain fly. Worked for me and my dog as well as when I had the family along.

For my more permanent camps, I built a 3-4 log wall outside my wall tent. The rain fly covered the logs and directed both the rain and the snow to outside the logs. It made the tent a lot warmer and comfortable.

Zap, you can keep the snakes and I will suffer with the packrats and chipmunks.

100-200 per mile? On a road or a trail?


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Scolopendra heros, giant Sonoran centipede

These and scorpions are what keep me in a full tent or bug bivy if under a tarp year round in the desert southwest. Not much freaks me out but the giant centipedes sure do. When they crawl up rock faces you can hear the legs scratching and tapping as they slither around. Freaky!
Hell no. This is why i live in montana. Only have to worry about bears here. Not some creepy that is off the set of king kong. Gross.
 

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Scolopendra heros, giant Sonoran centipede

These and scorpions are what keep me in a full tent or bug bivy if under a tarp year round in the desert southwest. Not much freaks me out but the giant centipedes sure do. When they crawl up rock faces you can hear the legs scratching and tapping as they slither around. Freaky!
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100-200 per mile? On a road or a trail?


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On the road. This was at Pittsburg landing in 1975. I worked a lot of my time in the river bottom. I never had a day with less than 30 snakes. A lot of the crew would have to crawl over the cave at the mine portals of the mines to do the mapping and sampling. Somewhat breath taking listening to the rattlers buzzing in the rockpile below you.

Many of the crew took tennis rackets to protect themselves from bats while they were surveying. The trip out at night was just as hair raising as the trip in.
 
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On the road. This was at Pittsburg landing in 1975. I worked a lot of my time in the river bottom. I never had a day with less than 30 snakes. A lot of the crew would have to crawl over the cave at the mine portals of the mines to do the mapping and sampling. Somewhat breath taking listening to the rattlers buzzing in the rockpile below you.

Many of the crew took tennis rackets to protect themselves from bats while they were surveying. The trip out at night was just as hair raising as the trip in.

Jimney crickets that’s a lot of snakes. I’ve been to Pittsburg landing a few times and I think I’ve only seen 2 snakes. Amazing that there was enough rodents and mice to keep that many snakes fed


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Try it at night after a hot day - it will look like snake convention or did then.

We even had a geologist trapped in the outhouse at the ranch house. The snake came out of the floor while he was sitting the throne. He was scared to say anything for two hours until we went to see if he died.
 
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This can be done with a floorless shelter and a nest though. It's the best of both worlds from my point of view.
 

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Scolopendra heros, giant Sonoran centipede

These and scorpions are what keep me in a full tent or bug bivy if under a tarp year round in the desert southwest. Not much freaks me out but the giant centipedes sure do. When they crawl up rock faces you can hear the legs scratching and tapping as they slither around. Freaky!
And they hurt like crazy when they bite, as do scorpion stings.
Had the "joy" to experience both during my infantey years. Those giant centipedes will reach over a foot long in the pacific islands!
 
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