Who is dropping their standards?

Hnthrdr said:
okay can we all agree that slashing tires or being an a-hole especially when firearms are out and loaded is really really dumb, for all involved. How about shoot what tips your trigger and leave it there. 71 year old guy I met this year smoked a forkie in the basin I was glassin. I was pumped for him, hell i hope I can still be hiking back into spots when I’m that age
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This here is the correct attitude, 100%. This will get you a handshake instead of slashed tires every time.
 
So I was just curious if anyone had dropped their standards... I didn't want to start a fight at a trailhead😉. Anyway, these people that are saying they hunt to have a good time, to make memories, to enjoy the mountains and enjoy filling tags, that is awesome and a big part of it for me as well. For me I have found I crave those big bucks (my definition of big maybe different from someone else's). Who knows maybe I won't someday, but I hope I always do!
 
Szwampdonkey said:
So youre ok with a resident killing whatever they want with a cheap tag but have a problem with a NR killing whatever they want with a more expensive tag? Those NR hunters also dumped a couple grand into your local economy in the form of gas, food, lodging, etc.

Ppl like you are why people get their tires slashed.
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Couple things. Who’s this dumbass? Why is he still on rockslide? Is this the new monstermuleys? And is he related to Aram Von Benedikt?
 
Schoolhousegrizz said:
For me I have found I crave those big bucks
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Do you crave big bucks or smart bucks? I am a far better fly fisherman than hunter. I get much more excited sticking a fat 18" wild brown in heavily fished water on drift two after watching anglers stand a rod's length away and flail for an hour, than I do netting a 30" rainbow with a 3wt and 5.5x on private water.

One looks cooler for pictures though.
 
sndmn11 said:
Do you crave big bucks or smart bucks? I am a far better fly fisherman than hunter. I get much more excited sticking a fat 18" wild brown in heavily fished water on drift two after watching anglers stand a rod's length away and flail for an hour, than I do netting a 30" rainbow with a 3wt and 5.5x on private water.

One looks cooler for pictures though.
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I am totally on the same page with you. I'd rather shoot a 180 inch public land buck than a 210 inch buck on a private ranch.
 
My standards change a lot depending on the circumstances of the hunt. Is my freezer full? How much time do I have to hunt for that particular season? What is the known quality of buck I have seen or know for sure exists in that unit? I try to go into a hunt with a realistic standard based on those three questions. That may be a 140 buck, or a 180 buck, depending on the tag, the time, and the scouting. Once I’m on the hunt, it comes down to this:

Does the buck get me exited? I’m trying to replicate that heart rate spike and excitement when I first lay eyes on a “big buck”. The size of deer that produces that response has changed a lot over the years. I have a lot of fun looking for THAT buck, but it really no longer interests me killing one that doesn’t get my heart rate up. I should have to TRY to get it together before the shot! If I know it’s the biggest buck i can reasonably find in the unit, I’ll be exited, even if that’s a 150. If I truly need the meat, I’ll take a lesser buck at the end of my hunt.
 
Szwampdonkey said:
Oh the irony of your comment.
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You’re not wrong, I truly do not get worked up about these topics. I learned as a young man you shouldn’t play chess with pigeons. I don’t think rockslide should be a place where we talk about committing felonies. Maybe his comments are within rockslide standards.
 
b0nes said:
You’re not wrong, I truly do not get worked up about these topics. I learned as a young man you shouldn’t play chess with pigeons. I don’t think rockslide should be a place where we talk about committing felonies. Maybe his comments are within
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Someone is committing felonies here? Do tell
 
Entitlement to kill a mule deer is part how Montana got in this predicament of no decent mature bucks. Its not even a resident vs nonresident issue. Lots of guys put in 3 days of driving around so they think they're owed a freezer buck.

Why not shoot a whitetail then? For the $1000 of an extended weekend why not buy a side of beef and lie to your friends it's an elk?
 
Jake Larsen said:
My standards change a lot depending on the circumstances of the hunt. Is my freezer full? How much time do I have to hunt for that particular season? What is the known quality of buck I have seen or know for sure exists in that unit? I try to go into a hunt with a realistic standard based on those three questions. That may be a 140 buck, or a 180 buck, depending on the tag, the time, and the scouting. Once I’m on the hunt, it comes down to this:

Does the buck get me exited? I’m trying to replicate that heart rate spike and excitement when I first lay eyes on a “big buck”. The size of deer that produces that response has changed a lot over the years. I have a lot of fun looking for THAT buck, but it really no longer interests me killing one that doesn’t get my heart rate up. I should have to TRY to get it together before the shot! If I know it’s the biggest buck i can reasonably find in the unit, I’ll be exited, even if that’s a 150. If I truly need the meat, I’ll take a lesser buck at the end of my hunt.
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Great way to put it! Very similar to how it works out for me. If I have to try and talk myself into shooting… he is not my buck, I remember when I saw the buck I took this year, I knew instantly that I wanted to shoot him.
 
To the op my goal is to shoot a mature buck. At the end of the day I feed my family off meat for the year and I will lower my standards if I get a chance at something smaller then ideal but still is within what I consider a killable deer. I ate tag soup in my home state this year and shot what some may consider small bucks in 2 other states it’s all in perspective of the hunter. Unfortunately killing does and spikes or forks is not illegal in a lot places so at that point we should be more mad at our voted in politicians making the rules then a non res or resident that shoots a legal animal we don’t agree with morally. As far as slashing tires I’ve had that done by some low life on my triple axle trailer. If you got a problem with someone man up and face it because that is a spineless way to attempt to settle any dispute. At the end of the day someone knows he needs tires and has no idea what he did wrong to deserve that.
 
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