Who else has caught the Rona?

[AK Troutbum]

How did you pick up the part about me not caring about the family in his story? I said bless your heart because he believes pharma cares about cures. Would you rather me personally attacked this man and called him an idiot? I’m sure he’s an intelligent guy but my point is, everyone should be allowed to do their own risk assessment. I choose to wait and see the long term studies.


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I believe Parma cares about making money, and developing drugs, or vaccines to treat and or prevent diseases is in their best interest. So, I guess that I also believe that Pharma cares about cures, simply because that’s how they make their money. If I hire a contractor to build my house, I need to believe that he is going to do his best work and try to please me as a customer, because that’s in his best interest. If he does a subpar job, and does that often, chances are he won’t be in business for very long. If you don’t trust the science/pharmacological companies that make these drugs/vaccines, that’s fine and you shouldn’t take them or allow anybody to inject them into you. If you work for an employer that requires you to do this, and your convictions to not do it are strong enough, then you should probably seek other employment. It’s all pretty simple, I just wish that the folks that are determined to not get the vaccine, wouldn’t come into the hospital when they are sick with Covid. Caring for folks with Covid, only to watch them die, was bad enough a year ago, but now it’s worse, and I got to say, I’m starting to get a little burned out watching unvaccinated people die with Covid.

Maybe it’s time that I should find a different job.


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[AK Troutbum]

See......with or without antibodies......it's still a crapshoot either way. When it's your time to go, it's your time to go. And none of us can control that. Now it's about time for something even riskier than unvaccinated Covid........some solo elk hunting. Disclaimer: As far as I know, that's still my choice as of now........either way, I'm going.......Lord willing.

Hopefully your not looking to elk hunt in Canada.


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[HUNTNUT]

So I finally got the Rona. While traveling for work no less and am now stuck in a hotel room to quarantine for the next ten days before I can travel home.

Anyways, I thought my allergies were acting up yesterday so I took some antihistamine and it cleared up my headache, cough and runny nose after a few hours so I figured I was good. Due to flying and where I am, my wife told me I should get tested just to be sure before I fly home so I figured why not, I’ll head over to the nearest clinic and knock one out. About an hour later a woman in damn near a full hazmat suit walks into my room and tells me I’m positive for Covid.

So for you guys that have had this, what was your experience with it? Mild, bad, horrible? Luckily everything seems pretty mild for me.

Wouldn’t have know I had it except I work in a hospital lab. Was going to visit my mother last Thanksgiving and decided to test myself. Positive. I’ve been to work and felt 10 times as bad. I guess I was a lucky one.

 

[5MilesBack]

If the vaccines ONLY reduce severe illness and death (but the vaccinated can still get it and pass it), it is pretty easy to continue to support the vaccine roll-out.

It's easy to support "people's choice" on the vaccine rollout......not the mandates, and vaccine shaming, ridiculing, and all the other idiocy going on with it.

 

[redcorn65]

I believe Parma cares about making money, and developing drugs, or vaccines to treat and or prevent diseases is in their best interest. So, I guess that I also believe that Pharma cares about cures, simply because that’s how they make their money. If I hire a contractor to build my house, I need to believe that he is going to do his best work and try to please me as a customer, because that’s in his best interest. If he does a subpar job, and does that often, chances are he won’t be in business for very long. If you don’t trust the science/pharmacological companies that make these drugs/vaccines, that’s fine and you shouldn’t take them or allow anybody to inject them into you. If you work for an employer that requires you to do this, and your convictions to not do it are strong enough, then you should probably seek other employment. It’s all pretty simple, I just wish that the folks that are determined to not get the vaccine, wouldn’t come into the hospital when they are sick with Covid. Caring for folks with Covid, only to watch them die, was bad enough a year ago, but now it’s worse, and I got to say, I’m starting to get a little burned out watching unvaccinated people die with Covid.

Maybe it’s time that I should find a different job.


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What about the ones that are still dying regardless of getting the vaccine? I ain’t here to argue man but if you’re gonna tug at heart strings what about the ones dying with heart disease? They could have put the mt dew down and started an exercise program but the hospital will still give them double bypass surgery. What about lung cancer? Coulda stopped smoking. I’d hate taking care of cancer patients more personally. Maybe we should say oh you chose to smoke so don’t come crying to me. Gee whiz man. Why is is so wrong to be nervous to inject a experimental vaccine into my body that was developed in 6 months. I’m not criticizing you for making that choice but to imply people who don’t take the jab should be denied treatment is absolutely ludicrous.


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[5MilesBack]

Hopefully your not looking to elk hunt in Canada.

Are you telling me Canada has elk? Aaaaa....their season is probably the same time as ours anyway. I need someplace in the southern hemisphere with an elk rut season that's not called "the roar".

 

[thegrouse]

PA DOH posts it online as all of the hospitals submit daily reports. You may also want to check Johns Hopkins as they have a massive database.

I checked the PA DOH and JH site. Neither one lists the vaccinated/unvaccinated as it pertains to deaths/hospitalization

 

[Wapiti1]

I had it in Nov of last year. My wife also had it. We had, if you combine all of our symptoms, zero symptoms. Neither of us would have known if we had not been in a group (my wife's mother's funeral) and some in the group came down with it. So we got tested. Positive. We stayed home and determined that we could probably retire together. At most, I think we may have confused allergy sniffles with Covid, but it was super mild with nothing else to note.

Both of us got vaccinated this spring when it was possible to do so. I did it for several reasons, but visiting my parents is the biggest one. We missed a trip last fall, and I don't have many left to share with a pair of 75 year old parents. I'll do whatever I need to so I can spend as much time with them as I can. That was my main reason, for what it is worth.

Jeremy

 

[Wapiti1]

Are you telling me Canada has elk? Aaaaa....their season is probably the same time as ours anyway. I need someplace in the southern hemisphere with an elk rut season that's not called "the roar".

New Zealand has several ranches with the RM elk on them. They will inbreed with the red deer, but they do shoot some tanks there. I have no idea what the rut timing is. Probably March.

If you want adventure head to Kazakhstan for maral stag. Basically, they are our elk, only they bugle in Kazak.

The animals in Canada are Eh...lk, eh. I that endeth the bad jokes for the evening.

Jeremy

 

[TSimons9]

I got it back in May. I was worst off for about the first 24 hours with a high fever, body aches, cough the whole nine. After that first day it was like a cold, just feeling tired, cough, runny nose, and headache. I stayed on alternating ibuprofen and dayquil and did my best to sleep as much as possible while also taking vitamins, herbal medicines and sleeping as much as possible. I was symptom free after about a week except for my loss of taste and smell which took about 2 weeks to return. I have had no noticeable lasting effects. For context I am 26 and in good shape with no health issues. It was a minor inconvenience at most. I even worked from home throughout the whole ordeal.

 

[IDhunter0990]

We had it about 3 weeks ago. My wife and I and 3 out our 4 kids got it. It was not very fun. Nothing to serious but it wiped out all of our energy.

 

[FLATHEAD]

We had it about 3 weeks ago. My wife and I and 3 out our 4 kids got it. It was not very fun. Nothing to serious but it wiped out all of our energy.

This. Energy zapper for sure.

 

[AK Troutbum]

What about the ones that are still dying regardless of getting the vaccine? I ain’t here to argue man but if you’re gonna tug at heart strings what about the ones dying with heart disease? They could have put the mt dew down and started an exercise program but the hospital will still give them double bypass surgery. What about lung cancer? Coulda stopped smoking. I’d hate taking care of cancer patients more personally. Maybe we should say oh you chose to smoke so don’t come crying to me. Gee whiz man. Why is is so wrong to be nervous to inject a experimental vaccine into my body that was developed in 6 months. I’m not criticizing you for making that choice but to imply people who don’t take the jab should be denied treatment is absolutely ludicrous.


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I didn’t imply that the people who don’t get vaccinated shouldn’t be allowed to be treated, all I stated was that I’m getting burned out because pretty much everybody that I’ve taken care of in the last couple months are unvaccinated. There are vaccines available to everyone 12 and older, if you choose not to be vaccinated that is your choice, just live by those convictions. I would feel the same way if there was a vaccine against cancer. I see your point, people smoke and have heart disease, or cancer, but yet still come to the hospital and get treated. People over eat, and have heart disease, and still come to the hospital and get treated, but his is a pandemic, and our hospitals are being overwhelmed. Our hospitals are not being overwhelmed from cardiac disease secondary to over eating, or being overwhelmed from cancer and cardiac disease from smoking. I have no experience with the people that are dying from Covid after getting vaccinated, because I haven’t taken care of any of those folks, I only know what I see. I’m not trying to tug on anybody’s heartstrings here, we’re all free to make our own decisions, all I’m saying is that there is a worldwide pandemic, and a vaccine is available, if you choose not to take it, then you my have to deal with that decision. I think that there is a possibility that if our hospital’s become overwhelmed by this disease, either by lack of beds, equipment, or staffing, a triage type situation is possible (all bets are off), including hospitals caring for the vaccinated first over the unvaccinated. Hopefully that never happens, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and I think nothing is out of the realm of possibility these days.


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[Gobbler36]

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[Remsp10]

Have avoided it thus far...but making the rounds again here in WI so I am sure my ticket will be up soon.

 

[Mike7]

I didn’t imply that the people who don’t get vaccinated shouldn’t be allowed to be treated, all I stated was that I’m getting burned out because pretty much everybody that I’ve taken care of in the last couple months are unvaccinated. There are vaccines available to everyone 12 and older, if you choose not to be vaccinated that is your choice, just live by those convictions. I would feel the same way if there was a vaccine against cancer. I see your point, people smoke and have heart disease, or cancer, but yet still come to the hospital and get treated. People over eat, and have heart disease, and still come to the hospital and get treated, but his is a pandemic, and our hospitals are being overwhelmed. Our hospitals are not being overwhelmed from cardiac disease secondary to over eating, or being overwhelmed from cancer and cardiac disease from smoking. I have no experience with the people that are dying from Covid after getting vaccinated, because I haven’t taken care of any of those folks, I only know what I see. I’m not trying to tug on anybody’s heartstrings here, we’re all free to make our own decisions, all I’m saying is that there is a worldwide pandemic, and a vaccine is available, if you choose not to take it, then you my have to deal with that decision. I think that there is a possibility that if our hospital’s become overwhelmed by this disease, either by lack of beds, equipment, or staffing, a triage type situation is possible (all bets are off), including hospitals caring for the vaccinated first over the unvaccinated. Hopefully that never happens, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and I think nothing is out of the realm of possibility these days.


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There are potential answers to preventing hospital crowding from Covid, but we just refuse to even entertain them.

The majority of PCPs are telling people to just go home, stay inside, and then go to the hospital if/when you get short of breath.

Imagine if we did that for heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, pneumonia, urinary tract infections, etc. We could over-run the hospital very quickly by just not treating one of these other problems.

India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part III: The Lesson of Kerala

The Ivermectin Effect

www.thedesertreview.com

 

[Coveyleader]

Funny thing, you remember the billboards, and the human form of them from CA on this thread, and many others........ "get the shot, so you can visit your elderly parents, see your loved ones again, stop the spread" Now, you get the the shot, can carry, and spread it once again so what have we gained? The vaccinated can still catch it, spread it, and worse yet, they think they can't. So.......... Your aging parents and loved ones are right back where they started, if not worse.

It's the twilight zone out there. I have a large gathering coming up, then my elk hunt. Fingers crossed I make it through.

 

[redcorn65]

There are potential answers to preventing hospital crowding from Covid, but we just refuse to even entertain them.

The majority of PCPs are telling people to just go home, stay inside, and then go to the hospital if/when you get short of breath.

Imagine if we did that for heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, pneumonia, urinary tract infections, etc. We could over-run the hospital very quickly by just not treating one of these other problems.

India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part III: The Lesson of Kerala

The Ivermectin Effect

www.thedesertreview.com

We have been on ivermec since last feb. once a week. My parents haven’t been sick yet. Good stuff.


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[MattB]

Funny thing, you remember the billboards, and the human form of them from CA on this thread, and many others........ "get the shot, so you can visit your elderly parents, see your loved ones again, stop the spread" Now, you get the the shot, can carry, and spread it once again so what have we gained? The vaccinated can still catch it, spread it, and worse yet, they think they can't. So.......... Your aging parents and loved ones are right back where they started, if not worse.

So you know the vaccinated can catch COVID but they don;'t? We are lucky to benefit from your sage wisdom.

Where does your analysis factor in the benefit from vaccines in terms of the reduction in severe disease and death and how do you come to the conclusion that people who have that benefit are worse off having that benefit than not?

 

[ODB]

There are potential answers to preventing hospital crowding from Covid, but we just refuse to even entertain them.

The majority of PCPs are telling people to just go home, stay inside, and then go to the hospital if/when you get short of breath.

Imagine if we did that for heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, pneumonia, urinary tract infections, etc. We could over-run the hospital very quickly by just not treating one of these other problems.

India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part III: The Lesson of Kerala

The Ivermectin Effect

www.thedesertreview.com

For those willing to read - here's some interesting stuff: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/