Which suppressor would you choose? Thoughts on the Nomad Ti XC?

Which suppressor would you choose?

  • AB Raptor 10 w/ 5" reflex

    Votes: 3 4.6%

  • AB Raptor 8 w/ 3" reflex

    Votes: 7 10.8%

  • Dead Air Nomad Ti XC

    Votes: 24 36.9%

  • Silencer Co Scythe Ti

    Votes: 5 7.7%

  • Diligent Defense Enticer LTI

    Votes: 3 4.6%

  • TBAC Ultra 7 .30

    Votes: 12 18.5%

  • US/UM OG

    Votes: 4 6.2%

  • US/UM OG L

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • Total voters
    65
Kaleb said:
The raptor 8 might be everything you’re looking for once it comes in? Your ideal can might already be in the works for you.
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Yes, this is a very distinct possibility. It is heavy though. There just happens to be a bit left in the pre-season discretionary budget and the numbers on the Nomad seem really good. I’m basically just waiting for Form to drop into this thread and tell me I am idiot for not considering X factor and the suppressor I really want is something not on my list.


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I currently run a lti xc on 22” 300 rum 245’s ti xc on a 20” .308 185’s both currently tuned with e brake. Happy with both here. The juice is worth the squeeze.
 
greyghostnw said:
I currently run a lti xc on 22” 300 rum 245’s ti xc on a 20” .308 185’s both currently tuned with e brake. Happy with both here. The juice is worth the squeeze.
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Never had any durability concerns with that on the RUM?


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Q_Sertorius said:
It should be. It’s 8.8” long.


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Yeah, the crazy thing about that selection of ratings is that the enticer sti ranks amongst all those L class cans. Punches way above it's class in size, weight, and price.
 
The raptor 8 will be nice on a 16” bolt gun . If you want extra suppression get a 556 encap . The 6.5 endcap makes a big difference on my 6.5prc / raptor 4 .
 
JF_Idaho said:
Since you're pretty sensitive to loudness check out the LPM Mach S. Supposed to be a little quieter (and a touch heavier/longer) than the Ti XC. I don't own a Ti XC so can't give you a personal opinion between the 2.
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Ive been super impressed with my LPM Mach. The only downside ish thing is the OD. They are fat ass cans. That also helps with the suppression though. Mine is a Mach L. Quite as shit
 
Q_Sertorius said:
Never had any durability concerns with that on the RUM?


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Q_Sertorius said:
Never had any durability concerns with that on the RUM?


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Ive put 101 berger 245 eol rounds down new barrel thus far last few weeks with n570 and its good ta go so far. I opted to start with e brake so cant say without it. I previously used with and without e brake on old barrel was hornady 212’s no concern there either. As reluctant as i was about suppression ive decided so stay the course with. The new rum build is 11 pounds on the dot kitted out with scope , lti xc and bibpod etc. feels perfect in hand with 22” barrel rides just right carry wise. Drives nice proan as well my preference for ridge top style, I definitely would use the lti xc over just xc on anything more than 308. The rums marginally less cozy with lti xc over a 5 port ti pro plus dont get the blast of gas back at ya. The downfall of that design imop amongst other… I have used a CA side port aka slayer for 100’s of round plus ti pro 5 for nearly 1000 out of last rum the e braked lti xc is nearly the same with my build. Just a opinion though. My rifles get used.
 
Q_Sertorius said:
Yes, this is a very distinct possibility. It is heavy though. There just happens to be a bit left in the pre-season discretionary budget and the numbers on the Nomad seem really good. I’m basically just waiting for Form to drop into this thread and tell me I am idiot for not considering X factor and the suppressor I really want is something not on my list.


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I wouldn't wait on @Formidilosus to jump in. If you read through his posts, you will find he is a fan of the Hyperion K and the OG (which you already have). He has also made the same points that others have made in this thread (i.e. suppressor volume is a big factor). As far as tone goes, that is an individual perception that requires you to actually hear each of them being shot with various cartridges to determine what you like. No amount of forum talk will be able to tell you what tones your ears/brain interpret as "the best". I think all the cans on your list are good for what you plan to do with them. I would add the Hyperion K to the list. It is in the same size/weight range as the rest and it is in stock at Silencer Shop.

All that being said, in your poll I chose the Nomad Ti XC. I have a regular Nomad and it is one of my go-to cans even though it is 4 ounces heavier than some of my others. It has very good suppression and its tone works for what I shoot it with. I have shot the Ti XC version on a 6.5 Creed and a 300 PRC and it did very well. It was a tiny bit more "tinny" than my regular Nomad, but that is to be expected based on construction materials used. The ABs work very well too. A good friend of mine has both the 8 and the 10 and uses them on a variety of rifles including 6.5 Grendel, 6.5PRC, 7RM, and 308. While I have not personally heard the long version of the Diligent, I have shot the short version (7-08 was the cartridge) and it was pretty good as well. I would expect the Long to be even better. I haven't shot the OG, but you already own one of those and I have read your initial impressions on it. The TBAC is a very good can. My only issue with them is that the DT option is just a muzzle device rocksetted into the can. It doesn't add a ton of extra weight and I believe that they are HUB compatable so you could replace the mount system with a Ti DT HUB mount, but it is still a sticking point for me. They do sound good though, especially with "midsize" cartridges (308 family and such). As far as the Scythe goes, I beileve I read that you already own one of these as well and I really don't need to get into further discussion about some of the issues they have been having. That being said, another good friend of mine bought 3 of them on my recommendation (before they starting coming apart) and uses them frequently on his rifles. One of which is primarily used on a 6.5PRC and another on a 300WM. He is super happy with them and obviously has not experinced any failures.

I hope that is helpful.
 
I have a nomad ti xc and have shot it next to most of those cans you have listed there as well as owning a few of them myself. I have found the nomad to be notably more quiet at my ear than those others. I think you’d be really happy with it.
 
HandgunHTR said:
I wouldn't wait on @Formidilosus to jump in. If you read through his posts, you will find he is a fan of the Hyperion K and the OG (which you already have). He has also made the same points that others have made in this thread (i.e. suppressor volume is a big factor). As far as tone goes, that is an individual perception that requires you to actually hear each of them being shot with various cartridges to determine what you like. No amount of forum talk will be able to tell you what tones your ears/brain interpret as "the best". I think all the cans on your list are good for what you plan to do with them. I would add the Hyperion K to the list. It is in the same size/weight range as the rest and it is in stock at Silencer Shop.

All that being said, in your poll I chose the Nomad Ti XC. I have a regular Nomad and it is one of my go-to cans even though it is 4 ounces heavier than some of my others. It has very good suppression and its tone works for what I shoot it with. I have shot the Ti XC version on a 6.5 Creed and a 300 PRC and it did very well. It was a tiny bit more "tinny" than my regular Nomad, but that is to be expected based on construction materials used. The ABs work very well too. A good friend of mine has both the 8 and the 10 and uses them on a variety of rifles including 6.5 Grendel, 6.5PRC, 7RM, and 308. While I have not personally heard the long version of the Diligent, I have shot the short version (7-08 was the cartridge) and it was pretty good as well. I would expect the Long to be even better. I haven't shot the OG, but you already own one of those and I have read your initial impressions on it. The TBAC is a very good can. My only issue with them is that the DT option is just a muzzle device rocksetted into the can. It doesn't add a ton of extra weight and I believe that they are HUB compatable so you could replace the mount system with a Ti DT HUB mount, but it is still a sticking point for me. They do sound good though, especially with "midsize" cartridges (308 family and such). As far as the Scythe goes, I beileve I read that you already own one of these as well and I really don't need to get into further discussion about some of the issues they have been having. That being said, another good friend of mine bought 3 of them on my recommendation (before they starting coming apart) and uses them frequently on his rifles. One of which is primarily used on a 6.5PRC and another on a 300WM. He is super happy with them and obviously has not experinced any failures.

I hope that is helpful.
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That is helpful. Thank you.

I am really trying to look beyond the numbers and solicit negative information about the Nomad Ti XC. And find out if there are other suppressors I should be considering. I’m not sure why I took the Hyperion K off the list. I will look at that one some more.


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The only negative about the Hyperion or K to me is the way they mount. It’s not a flush HUB style or able to be changed. It also adds about half an inch to the overall length for no reason. It comes 5/8 like most all do but if your barrel can’t take 5/8 now you’re using an adapter. Fine I guess but I like to keep things simple so I swap the 5/8 HUB out on mine for the same in 1/2. That way it’s simple direct thread.

I’m not saying it’s a real problem at all. I’m not even saying my opinion is correct. Just pointing that out if you have smaller sporter barrels that aren’t large enough for 5/8 threads. We all have different things that hang us up. For some adapters and such don’t get a second thought. Some get hung up over having to cut/thread a barrel. I can run 15min down the road drop it off for a few days and $80 I have what I want. We’ve all got different things running through our minds about that perfect setup I guess? Ha.
 
I have a really hard time committing to any suppressor that won’t publish dBA ratings or can volume. I don’t mind at all if they choose not to send it to PewScience (for a variety of reasons). I get that there is no real industry standard, but there are mil standards for testing that everyone could be using. I just assume - in the absence of other information - that anyone who isn’t publishing their sound suppression (the REASON to have a suppressor in the first place) just doesn’t see it as competitive with the market alternatives. All cans are compromising somewhere in some relevant factor.

All other things - length, weight, etc. - being equal, sound suppression is the purpose of a suppressor.

When I called AB, I wanted to find out more about how quiet their cans are. They won’t say anything about it. That annoys me, but there are a ton of other reports that give me some confidence they will be quiet enough to satisfy me. And, they were very forthright about exactly how much each different option added to the total weight and length. But a lot of these companies are not that clear about even those things.

I went back to my notes to look at the Hyperion K again. As far as I can tell, the Hyperion K is probably close to the OG in sound suppression. This is from comparing the SE ratings at PewScience with the SE dBA numbers from the TBAC summit for similar cans. But it is far longer. That’s why it didn’t make my list. A 132-133 dBA can has to be measurably better than the OG for me to consider it.


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I don't have the xc but I do have the Nomad Ti. It has been a great can and it's very quiet. Whenever I'm at matches, I'm always the one who gets complimented and asked what can because it sounds so good. It's a pretty good size for hunting, although I might get another with a smaller diameter. I would not want one longer or heavier, for sure. My next one will most likely be a Otter Creek Hydrogen K, possibly in 6.5. Hope this helps.
 
I’d be curious to hear how the Dead Air EBrake fits into this conversation. Dead air claims it makes them a little quieter. I want to say @Formidilosus was saying brakes on cans generally makes them louder. Anyone have comparison/contrast experience with those?
 
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