What is wrong with ruger rifles

[BLJ]

I’d be really interested in these $150 RA’s.

 

[Kyguy]

Kinda why I said to snag a takeoff.

Still, interesting that the guys looking at buying a gun, and here you are fussing about selling it lol.

You're telling him to spend more money to make it workable. I'm telling him to spend less to get something ready to go out of the box and adjustable, so that if they hate it, he can move it.

 

[Shortschaf]

Both tikka and RAR are easy to sell for $100 to $150 off retail. They occupy different price ranges and the lower price range usually moves quicker

Id say they both hold plenty value for immediate future that it is not a factor

 

[RS_Non-Res]

Brain damage is the problem.
Teenaged boys have enough cognitive problems, they don't need multiple concussions to add to their issues. Let the 7-yr old shoot the 556/223/243 for a couple few more years before upsizing to a cartridge with more authority and wallop, and make sure the rifle has enough weight to take up some of the recoil.
Besides more guns is gooder.

I don't care about what rifle mfg and he likely can't shoot well enough to tell the difference between a "zeroed" Leopold Vortex or NF.

 

[Kyguy]

I’d be really interested in these $150 RA’s.

So would I. I'll take 10 of them. I don't care what the calibers are. HA!

 

[Steve300xcw]

@Steve300xcw

I’ll give you $150 for yours.

You wouldnt know what to do with a gun as nice as that one is

 

[Hondo]

As a guy that owns Tikka and Howa rifles, I have recommended the Ruger American Ranch Gen 2 as a starter rifle for kids to many due to the light weight, short length, grippy stock, cerakote barrel, tang safety and reasonable accuracy. My current ranch truck rifle is a Gen 2 Ranch in 5.56 and I am more than happy with it. I might even pick up the new Gen 2 Ranch in .243 when available.

 

[z987k]

What 6cm tikka has a 12”-13” lop, threaded 20” barrel and sub $850? I’ve researched but not sure I’ve exhausted that research yet. If there is one out there, I’d be willing to go up $200+ over the ruger, but I’m struggling to find it.
I haven’t done rifle research in 10 years though, so I feel undereducated all over again.

And if I was building this for myself, I’d start with a tikka and play but for two kids, 7 and 10, this just needs to be a low cost factory rifle that’ll take a beating when walking mistakes happen. My boy lives faceplanted in the dirt or sidewalk. Kids….

There isn't one. I'd have also gone with the tikka if there was(I own 2 tikkas). The reality is, by the time the tikka is set up as such you've got $1k into it. They're getting closer with the new models, but most of them have too long of a barrel, so even though it's threaded, it still has to be cut and threaded again. And then it's blued. And it rusts.

 

[nikomedeiros]

Within my circle, there appears to be a higher likelihood of a "lemon" as the power factor increases with the RA. With that and a 6.5prc likely being too much for a kid (as it is for a lot of adults), I'd suggest looking into the smaller offerings. The 6mmARC in the RA ranch would be a kick butt kiddo gun. Low recoil, easy to carry, and more than suitable terminal ballistics for what y'all are up to. Oh, and cheaper factory ammo making more practice more reasonable.

On another note - if you can swing a suppressor purchase, your kid will likely have a far greater shooting experience. I've noticed kids really struggle with the noise and concussion.

 

[Chris in TN]

To me, nothing is really wrong with Rugers except the brand name. That is just straight bias based on a small sample size and bad experiences with two Mini-14s, a Ruger No. 1, and a handful of M77s. The Mini-14s shot patterns, not groups (both rifles made in the 1980s). The 2014 Ruger No. 1 had to have the trigger and safety totally rebuilt, but it shoots well. The M77s just didn't shoot as well as other factory rifles (last handled them ca. 1996).

But I recognize that the RAR is a decent rifle and I think that for a kid, getting a short one in 6mm ARC makes a ton of sense. You might compare it with the Howa Mini as well.

Same, more or less.

Growing up, all the adult shooters I knew had absolutely terrible drama from M77s in the 1970's so nobody bought them in my crowd in the 1980's, until the 90's when the M77 boat-paddle editions begin to show up. We dismissed them as utilitarian garbage but I knew guys at work that bought them because they fit the budget. In hindsight I don't think that was a truly fair judgement, but with the accuracy of the mini-14 (I had a very accurate mini-30 by standards of the day, but it had other annoying issues and got sold) and the headache with my dad's #1.....ehhh. I wrote them off a long time ago and haven't needed to reconsider.

Would I buy a Ruger American? Yeah, if I needed to. I don't like the stocks or the magazines but will concede that they're probably decent shooters and I don't like my Tikka magazine arrangement that much either.

I'll just say that Ruger isn't my first choice for anything. Their semi-autos can be reliable but heavy and clunky, their revolvers are strong but crude. I grew up shooting Blackhawks (and still did, a lot, until I developed some right eye issues that ended those days) and they were great revolvers, but rough. Inconsistent chamber throat dimensions, crude front sight, easily breakable rear sight, mine broke the transfer bar, the trigger needed significant work to get it smooth, the bore is football shaped (if you try to get good with cast bullets you'll start to notice cylinder throat and bore dimensions, things that mean nothing with jacketed bullets). Nevermind screws that won't stay put and.....ehhhh, great gun designs, built to a price point at the expense of details. Not a category I pursue anymore.

But if I were on a budget and needed, say, a shorter barreled 6cm today, for purely utilitarian purposes, yeah, I'd try one.