What is Federal paying to shill for 7 backcountry?

[tony]

Im a mechanic so I think in ugga-duggas. What's the conversion from wallop to ugga-dugga?

You have to square that with authority
Then divide by knock down power to get your answer.

 

[alexnelon]

Of all the people posting on this thread, how many have actual shot a rifle in 7mm Backcountry? I wanted real world data so I bought a rifle and ammo.

I haven’t seen anyone wondering about how a 7mm at 80,000 psi is going to shoot. I think we can all imagine pretty close.

 

[cal30_sniper]

I haven’t seen anyone wondering about how a 7mm at 80,000 psi is going to shoot. I think we can all imagine pretty close.

Seems like some posting in this thread are having a hard time imagining the clear ballistic advantages of doing that.

 

[Kerbs]

I'm also amazed at the hate for the cartridge. It seems like a lot of conjecture in most cases. I absolutely love that Federal is pushing the boundaries. I LOATHE LONG BARRELS. Especially 24-26" magnums. I have been shooting with suppressors for more than 20 years and it sucks to hunt in the west with a long rifle and then another 7"s hanging off the end. Those of us who want to hunt with a 16-18" barrel and not take a huge velocity penalty, it's an amazing round. I'm having a 7BC barrel made right now in a 16.5" for exactly this reason. I believe the future of western rifles will be sub 20" barrels that favor suppressors.

I love old many old established cartridges and enjoy hunting/shooting them. But hot damn is it exciting to see real innovation in cartridges. I hope it makes it, but the only way it will is if people support it. Kinda funny that way.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

I don't understand all the pushback that 7BC has gotten in this community.

Because the half truths involved in the rollout hype, this is a community that does a lot of load tinkering so it stands out that can't be done at this time, something the hype downplays / at times misleads about. If the case technology truly allows reloading on a traditional hand press it would grow.

I have a 284win and 280AI, I have no fundamental issue with a 80ksi case like that as long as its safe and reloadable. That doesn't mean I won't jest about the "coming soon" aspects of the reloading rollout.

 

[cal30_sniper]

Because the half truths involved in the rollout hype, this is a community that does a lot of load tinkering so it stands out that can't be done at this time, something the hype downplays / at times misleads about. If the case technology truly allows reloading on a traditional hand press it would grow.

I have a 284win and 280AI, I have no fundamental issue with a 80ksi case like that as long as its safe and reloadable. That doesn't mean I won't jest about the "coming soon" aspects of the reloading rollout.

I think there’s a whole lot more negativity being spread around this than “well it’s great except we can’t reload it yet.”

The majority of the American shooting public doesn’t handload, and the percentage that does is likely dropping with the advent of FAR better factory ammo and coming advancements like the 277 Fury and 7BC indicate are around the corner. For the majority of use cases it makes less and less sense, especially in the glut of current ammo availability.

There’s also a lot of conjecture that it can’t be handloaded, but I’m not seeing any evidence of it being tinkered with to find out. You’d think with dies on the market and rifle/ammo/bullet availability being what it is, one of the presumed tinkerers would already be trying it. I’d wager that’s not the case because it doesn’t really make sense to invest the effort with current ammo availability and an already very high performing cartridge in factory trim.

 

[cal30_sniper]

I think there’s a whole lot more negativity being spread around this than “well it’s great except we can’t reload it yet.”

The majority of the American shooting public doesn’t handload, and the percentage that does is likely dropping with the advent of FAR better factory ammo and coming advancements like the 277 Fury and 7BC indicate are around the corner. For the majority of use cases it makes less and less sense, especially in the glut of current ammo availability.

There’s also a lot of conjecture that it can’t be handloaded, but I’m not seeing any evidence of it being tinkered with to find out. You’d think with dies on the market and rifle/ammo/bullet availability being what it is, one of the presumed tinkerers would already be trying it. I’d wager that’s not the case because it doesn’t really make sense to invest the effort with current ammo availability and an already very high performing cartridge in factory trim.

To put this more succinctly, I view the reloading conundrum as a red herring being utilized by a community that is historically very resistant to technological advancement.

I’m sure the same naysaying could have been observed in the local bar around the time of the advent of smokeless powder small bore cartridges 130 years ago.