mtnbiker208
WKR
more availability to 225 gr accubonds in a 338 win mag.
same with 140 gr accubonds in a 270wsm
same with 140 gr accubonds in a 270wsm
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That seems straightforward when focusing on load details and velocity, but it gets more complex when considering group sizes. Would you test with a factory rifle like a Tikka, or a custom-built rifle? A factory rifle would provide a more realistic representation of what most shooters can expect, whereas a custom rifle would better demonstrate the true performance potential of the ammunition.
Additionally, which projectiles would you be most interested in seeing offered for 223 Rem, 22 Creedmoor, 6mm Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .308 Winchester? Even if it is currently already available.
130 tmk 6.5 creed
@bpa556 this is a green & yellow example of a consistency error. 6.5 creed. A 3.5" group isn't gonna be ethical at 300, let alone 500.
Rifles were a new tikka upr & a savage 110 Apex hunter. The last group was rem components, sorted by bullet weight, powder to the tenth, and fired... 3.5 became sub moa.
I reload because I'm tired of not being able to get consistency outa factory. And cause I can roll 5.56 soft points for 8.60 a box.
This and a little better QC. I picked up a box of HSM for my 25-06 to try; box had some good numbers. My chrono said otherwise! The box is always off a little, but close to 500 fps is laughable. Just one more reason to not trust the box data.Real velocity numbers for each lot of ammo.
Jay
Yeah then when a guy looks at the data before shooting and sees his lot is 1.2MOA out of a test barrel on the manufacturer's web site but 2.5" out of his specific firearm he thinks the company is lying or his previous lot was 1MOA according to the website and the new lot he just bought (that he hasn't shot yet) is 1.2MOA and he calls in and bitches. Or the company get bombarded with calls on where to find "x" lot number because it looks like it shoots good.They wouldn’t have to print all the data people want on the box (if they did want to publicize the data…). Just publish it to a website by lot number where you could go search the lot number of the ammo you bought, or plan to buy, and see what the data looked like.
This nails it. To do what is being asked here is unrealistic at best, if not impossible.Yeah then when a guy looks at the data before shooting and sees his lot is 1.2MOA out of a test barrel on the manufacturer's web site but 2.5" out of his specific firearm he thinks the company is lying or his previous lot was 1MOA according to the website and the new lot he just bought (that he hasn't shot yet) is 1.2MOA and he calls in and bitches. Or the company get bombarded with calls on where to find "x" lot number because it looks like it shoots good.
Same with velocities... I need "x" new lot because it is the same as the lot I bought 3 years ago.
Total nightmare...for the general public and 90+% of applications it would be beyond stupid for a company to do that. For the other 10% or less...guys already handload or there are small niche handload or custom shops available.
Good idea, but I would suggest 22". Better yet, as others have suggested, provide that data for several barrel lengths - especially those super magnum over-bore loads with a lot of "wallop" (LOL).I think all factory ammo that has advertised velocities on the box should use a 24” barrel as the standard length. (This would be nice for reloading manuals as well)
Then it would be up to the consumer to calculate expected velocities based off this standard.
Lot to lot consistency is probably the most important unknown in factory ammo.
I brought this up in my other comment below - only in relation to the velocity part of the question: Form, if folks feel they need more velocity detail, thenn in consideration of the significant variations in velocity caused simply by different barrels (different firearms) shouldn't the shooter "get it right" by using a chronograph with their own weapon?That seems straightforward when focusing on load details and velocity, but it gets more complex when considering group sizes. Would you test with a factory rifle like a Tikka, or a custom-built rifle? A factory rifle would provide a more realistic representation of what most shooters can expect, whereas a custom rifle would better demonstrate the true performance potential of the ammunition.
Additionally, which projectiles would you be most interested in seeing offered for 223 Rem, 22 Creedmoor, 6mm Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .308 Winchester? Even if it is currently already available.