What are your thoughts on the Kung Flu?

[Coveyleader]

I said it before and like a broken record I will say it again. This has become so political Until the elections are over it’s not going away. So push the elections up to May, let Trump blow these idiots out of the water once again.

Until then, watch the political hacks flex their political muscles and destroy our country.

 

[Mike7]

It is hard to learn, if you don't listen.

The federal gov't provides almost zero health care in this county. That instead is provided by private organizations, and then with things like emergencies & pandemics managed/organized at the county -multicounty level with state support. Counties and hospitals practice these drills. They, not the feds, obtain the gear that they feel they need.

The feds are typically brought in by the state/counties to provide a higher level of coordination and expertise when multiple counties and/or states are involved.

Having been through multiple epidemics or pandemics over the past 25 years in medicine here and overseas, which luckily all ended up being much less severe than predicted, I think that may have made the various levels of govt and private health care orgs somewhat complacent about our vulnerability to a real pandemic like this. But that is water under the bridge now.

I have never in my life seen such a robust nationwide effort by the feds in working with state and county health dept's and hospitals in trying to:
1) organize the response so that available supplies are utilized where most needed despite constantly changing conditions
2) be fluid and make decisions based on the available known facts on the ground, which are flawed and changing as we learn more about this
3) get private manufacturing companies involved in the effort despite that over the past 20 years much of our medical supply chain has moved overseas
4) And try to get out a message of guidance & hope to the public based upon the latest best advice, while having to deal with a dishonest, and often ignorant press more intent on creating chaos or confusion than helping to inform people.

Could things be better. Sure, things can always be improved in hindsight. But also, cost vs. benefit is always a consideration with preparation as well.

I don't agree with all of the politics of the WHO necessarily, but read their guidance on transmission for instance, if you think that our CDC is promoting hoaxes, or you have questions after listening to the media. You don't have to be a medical person to understand it.

I kind of get the feeling here that a lot of us want to be whiny little bitches a little more than critical thinkers or problem solvers.

There is no perfectly right answer to some of these decisions right now.

People are going to die regardless of what we do. Many would have died in the next 1-2 years without coronavirus. No one knows yet how many might be saved by flattening the curve.

No one, not even the all knowing modelers, really knows yet how many have already been infected by this.

I think medical professionals are used to seeing 65 year old people with COPD and heart disease die during flu season when the flu might have played some role in their death. Our system is set up to handle this. But they are not used to seeing healthy 25 year olds die of respiratory failure, even if the numbers are ultimately small, hopefully. And futhermore, our system is just not set up to care for a large influx all at once of these kinds of patients. But panicking because of these factors, doesn't help anyone.

 

[cuerro viejo]

“The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” Wait, that was Trump.

Close she said” come to China town it’s very safe.....”

What did the mayor of NY(a city with a higher population then 40 states) say on March 3rd.....

What did the New Orleans Mayor say about Mardi Grai?

You want me to keep going?

Your comment is Exactly what’s wrong with America, partisan politics. Take out the fact the entire World didn’t actually know the truth of The mortality rates until Italy due to China’s lies..... you still had one side trying to impeach while the other side was on the defensive for the second time defending against a Coup d'état... All this going on when they could of set down and had a bi-partisan plan... but no....... impeachment at all cost is the current democrat slogan...

 

[MattB]

What was Pelosi’s exact words on Feb 24th....

What were her words? Do you errantly believe Pelosi is part of of our state or local government?

 

[MattB]

What date do you figure Trump realized the severity of this situation and how did you decide that?

Probably in between the time that he intimated it was a hoax and thought people were being hysterical and the point where he knew it was a pandemic before other people called it a pandemic

 

[cuerro viejo]

What were her words? Do you errantly believe Pelosi is part of of our state or local government?

Go back and read my last post...

Democratic leaders across this country where also taking it extremely lightly and encouraging people to congregate.

This is what happens when two political parties draw lines in the sand, and just waiting for the other to turn around so they can put a bullet in the back of the head.

Is the Nevada Governor backtracking on Hydroxychloroquine yet?

 

[Elk97]

Took that covid number 10 days to double as of today.

Per your source (Worldometer) 4-5 days for both total US cases and total deaths. And, unfortunately, no sign that either is beginning to slow down.

 

[MattB]

Go back and read my last post...

Democratic leaders across this country where also taking it extremely lightly and encouraging people to congregate.

This is what happens when two political parties draw lines in the sand, and just waiting for the other to turn around so they can put a bullet in the back of the head.

Is the Nevada Governor backtracking on Hydroxychloroquine yet?

So, people from both side of the aisle underestimating the severity of COVID-19 is an example of partisanship?

 

[cuerro viejo]

So, people from both side of the aisle underestimating the severity of COVID-19 is an example of partisanship?

... no one took it seriously they where pre-occupied....

Maybe the House Intelligence Committee should of been looking at the National Security threat of Corona instead of wasting money and time on an idiotic impeachment.

Democrats are on the attack and Whitehouse is on the defensive.....for the past 4 years...

 

[Billinsd]

What were her words? Do you errantly believe Pelosi is part of of our state or local government?

The Pelosis, Newsomes, Browns, and Gettys in San Francisco run California.

Redirect Notice

 

[Lou Sid]

Trump knew about this way before anyone else. His response was perfect, just like the tests are perfect and everybody gets one. Oh and 2 wrongs definitely make a right. The dems got it wrong, so that makes it ok for trump to get it wrong. Zero sarcasm.

 

[Billinsd]

Democrats are on the attack and Whitehouse is on the defensive.....for the past 4 years...

And they are back at it again with a phoney oversite committee. As bad as I believe Newsome is, he is not attacking Trump now, he has seemed to suspend politics against Trump in favor of California and the Country.

 

[Mike7]

President Mike7: Hey everyone. There are some meds that show promise in treating the pandemic. They are not new meds so we already know their safety profile. The fda is going to immediately promote the trial of off label use until we know more.

Reporter MattB: Mike7 promoted these drugs as curing the pandemic despite that his medical advisors say that they don't work since there is no 2 yr long double blind study of them working. Mike7 is a liar and gave false hope to all Americans.

President Mike7: I hope these drugs help people. I have fast-tracked their use for any doctors who want to try them. MattB's characterization of my comments is complete fiction, a hoax. Here listen to my medical adviser on the topic.

Mike7's Medical Advisor: President Mike is absolutely correct. These drugs may help. The ultimate proof may be months to years away though.

Reporter MattB 2 wks later: These drugs undoubtedly will save people's lives, but this President called their use a hoax, a hoax, a hoax, a hoax...

 

[Billinsd]

Probably in between the time that he intimated it was a hoax and thought people were being hysterical and the point where he knew it was a pandemic before other people called it a pandemic

So, that's between January and a couple of weeks ago?

 

[Billinsd]

Off subject. We just had a 4.9 in Anza, off San Jacinto Fault Zone, parallel and close to San Andrea's. 50 miles north of San Diego. The house shook pretty hard

 

[Sccritterkiller]

The government, neither side D or R, has a clue on this virus. I think that is obvious at this point. That's why in 2020 the current advice to fight this pandemic from "the goverment" is based on 14th century technology. The shelter in place screams no plan. The career politician system in this country needs to go. It only favors the elected and the few that can afford to buy their vote.

Let's quit focusing on which side is more wrong and put that energy towards anything more productive.

 

[*zap*]

You guys think there will be an election this year?

 

[MattB]

President Mike7: Hey everyone. There are some meds that show promise in treating the pandemic. They are not new meds so we already know their safety profile. The fda is going to immediately promote the trial of off label use until we know more.

Reporter MattB: Mike7 promoted these drugs as curing the pandemic despite that his medical advisors say that they don't work since there is no 2 yr long double blind study of them working. Mike7 is a liar and gave false hope to all Americans.

President Mike7: I hope these drugs help people. I have fast-tracked their use for any doctors who want to try them. MattB's characterization of my comments is complete fiction, a hoax. Here listen to my medical adviser on the topic.

Mike7's Medical Advisor: President Mike is absolutely correct. These drugs may help. The ultimate proof may be months to years away though.

Reporter MattB 2 wks later: These drugs undoubtedly will save people's lives, but this President called their use a hoax, a hoax, a hoax, a hoax...

So, you are suggesting that I who am pleased that our state/local government acted aggressively to reduce the spread of the disease would criticize aggressive action to treat the disease? On the contrary, I am all for it and am critical of medical professionals who are dismissing clinical studies based on small sample sizes in an effort to identify COVID-19 treatments.

But go on, your partisanship demands it.

 

[Billinsd]

President Mike7: Hey everyone.

Hey President Mike7 what are you going to do about the deficit? Your children and mine are going to inherit it. Sorry I could resist.

 

[Billinsd]

You guys think there will be an election this year?

No, absolutely not!!! I think Trump should continue on as President until the virus has been vanquished or another 4 years, whichever is longer!!! Didn't FDR do that? Yes, yes, yes, I know he got elected fairly for 4 terms. Who else was elected more than twice? President No One. And why are there term limits ? Bill