Well ok then....

[Flyjunky]

Think everyone is missing the bigger picture, there are certain things that do need to be built @ home for national security or sovereignty, but the tariffs are more then build back US mfg, it’s leveling the playing field for US companies to be able to compete in this so called “global economy”. It’s not a global economy for US if our goods are at a huge disadvantage in non domestic markets when they are taxed heavily. Retaliatory is cause and effect

Bingo

 

[svivian]

Everyone seems to have short term memory loss of other events that have caused prices to increase exponentially... i dont recall anyone dropping prices after Covid when the ports opened back up .

Also Port strikes threatening to cripple the economy is a good time too.

Im already getting all the marketing emails to "get your purchases in now" "pre tariff pricing!" I'll take a wager that even after all the dust settles(if and when the tariffs are dropped) that retailers keep their prices at tariff pricing. Just like after Covid, once they saw what people were willing to pay that had no reason to lower prices back down.

Dockworkers' Strike: Ships Pile Up After Threat To 'Cripple' Economy

Longshoremen want a 77% pay hike and no automation to end the strike.

www.investors.com

https://www.usitc.gov/research_and_analysis/tradeshifts/2020/special_topic.html

 

[maxx075]

Everyone seems to have short term memory loss of other events that have caused prices to increase exponentially... i dont recall anyone dropping prices after Covid when the ports opened back up .

Also Port strikes threatening to cripple the economy is a good time too.

Im already getting all the marketing emails to "get your purchases in now" "pre tariff pricing!" I'll take a wager that even after all the dust settles(if and when the tariffs are dropped) that retailers keep their prices at tariff pricing. Just like after Covid, once they saw what people were willing to pay that had no reason to lower prices back down.

Dockworkers' Strike: Ships Pile Up After Threat To 'Cripple' Economy

Longshoremen want a 77% pay hike and no automation to end the strike.

www.investors.com

https://www.usitc.gov/research_and_analysis/tradeshifts/2020/special_topic.html

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Yep, just like these retards that pay dealer markup on vehicles. There's no reason for them to lower prices if they see that people are willing (dumb/uneducated/stupid enough - insert your favorite adjective) to pay whatever they ask.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

You see you put “ultra lite” in front of the product and you charge quadruple for it. Then throw in the “tariffs” and something that costs them $100 landed suddenly gets that markup and gross margin.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Government/Union regs make economical manufacturing in US virtually impossible.
Add $$$ printing inflation and you have $100,000 pickups that aren't even made in the US.
Tariffs treat a symptom not the cause.
Didn't look closely but what did these cost Americans before the tariff issue?

EPA is actually the biggest issue, but Unions are a large contributor

 

[maxx075]

EPA is actually the biggest issue, but Unions are a large contributor

Just to play devil's advocate, EPA is also the reason you're not drinking from lead water pipes or breathing in lead from leaded gas. Of course it doesn't seem like any of this has helped the average IQ. Besides, microplastics are gonna wipe us out before anything else.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Just to play devil's advocate, EPA is also the reason you're not drinking from lead water pipes or breathing in lead from leaded gas. Of course it doesn't seem like any of this has helped the average IQ. Besides, microplastics are gonna wipe us out before anything else.

An agency can be good, just as they can be overbearing… like trying to tax/fine farmers in Okla for dust pollution…Just like making the permitting process to updated manufacturing plant’s pollution footprint cost prohibiting.

it’s no secret that the EPA is the key limiter to updating mfg facilities. It’s sad they make it more cost effective to relocate to Another country than to update the current facility to meet or exceed Standards. Coal and natural gas planets fall under this also. EPA is an American partner not political ideology

 

[elkliver]

Do you see any businesses that have more people applying for jobs than they have need for? All I see is people begging for employees. Who's going to work all these jobs that you want to "come back" to the US? It's a global economy and people need to stop living in the 1950's.

good point 2ski... at the end of the day, the US has been taking it in the shorts for years. Playing field needs to get adjusted. I think we will see some countries come to the bargaining table pretty quickly. and hopefully things will settle out. Definitely creates a lot of sleepless nights for small business's that rely on imports

 

[average]

good point 2ski... at the end of the day, the US has been taking it in the shorts for years. Playing field needs to get adjusted. I think we will see some countries come to the bargaining table pretty quickly. and hopefully things will settle out. Definitely creates a lot of sleepless nights for small business's that rely on imports

I suppose you still think the tariffs are based on reality. We haven't been "taking it in the shorts" saying it over and over won't make it true

 

[Dos XX]

Can you not buy all of the stuff in that ultralight fence kit from a farm store or on Amazon?
Those carbon poles look like fence poles?

 

[wyosam]

Can you not buy all of the stuff in that ultralight fence kit from a farm store or on Amazon?
Those carbon poles look like fence poles?

99% of the crap on Amazon is from china.


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[mt terry d]

Then why pay to have it routed through Canada?

 

[mostlybirch]

The largest, strongest economy in the world with the reserve currency of the planet, that uses the rest of the world for low-wage labor so we can afford anything and everything is the one getting screwed by everyone else? talk about a victim complex.

these countries didn't take our great manufacturing jobs, our companies went there seeking lower costs.

bringing low wage low skill manufacturing back stateside would only make us weaker, it drives our purchasing power down. of course we should have a manufacturing base for "strategic" materials, but we are a capitalist society and if it can be made cheaper elsewhere we will do it.

 

[cuerro viejo]

I suppose you still think the tariffs are based on reality. We haven't been "taking it in the shorts" saying it over and over won't make it true

American steel industry says other wise, especially when Canada and Mexico have had previous history of letting China “filter” through them.

 

[average]

American steel industry says other wise, especially when Canada and Mexico have had previous history of letting China “filter” through them.

I fail to see how our steel industry losing to China justifies blanket tariffs. A focus on quality and efficiency makes much more sense than big govt trying to put a gun to the head of our trade partners while making false claims. We're "victims" of a high standard of living that makes production cost more. I'm ok with that

 

[Yoder]

Do you see any businesses that have more people applying for jobs than they have need for? All I see is people begging for employees. Who's going to work all these jobs that you want to "come back" to the US? It's a global economy and people need to stop living in the 1950's.

We just raised spoiled, useless children that are too good to actually work for a living.

 

[maxx075]

We just raised spoiled, useless children that are too good to actually work for a living.

That's a product of giving everyone a trophy and telling us all we can be whatever we want.

 

[average]

We just raised spoiled, useless children that are too good to actually work for a living.

Labor stats don't really back up that often repeated claim

 

[Yoder]

Labor stats don't really back up that often repeated claim

I work in a computer chip factory, my uncle and cousin are car mechanics and my other cousins are in construction. We all see how nobody wants to work. Everyone is on the phone, expect to be the CEO in a week. I want to see if we can deport the racist Jew hating college kids and trade them for illegals that actually want to work.

 

[average]

I work in a computer chip factory, my uncle and cousin are car mechanics and my other cousins are in construction. We all see how nobody wants to work. Everyone is on the phone, expect to be the CEO in a week. I want to see if we can deport the racist Jew hating college kids and trade them for illegals that actually want to work.

I think that applies to most of the workforce but the amount of folks sitting home really isn't all that different than the past. Idk about deporting citizens but needing access to IRS info to deport immigrants gave me a chuckle when it was in the news the other day. "Illegal" "undocumented" whatever if they're paying taxes they're ok in my opinion.

I think labor statistics may miss number of hours worked. I can admit the younger generation probably rarely does more than their 40 if they can afford it