Weatherby is circling the toilet bowl

[fwafwow]

Quality wouldn't be apples to apples either

Is there an apples to apples comparison in your opinion - at least for manufactured ammo? I for a long time had the 257 on my list, but one reason I have not followed through is the ammo hurdle. That doesn't mean that those who made a different decision are wrong. My best hunting buddy has locked himself into 6.5-300 Wby with the rounds loaded by his custom rifle maker. He doesn't care - it's the easy button for him.

 

[Dirtbag]

The MKV Is truly the ultimate Fud elk rifle. Preferable chambered at a minimum in 300 wby, bonus points if it’s in 340 wby or 378. There is just something about that stock with its 17 coats of high gloss and that Monte Carlo design that threatens to dislodge teeth when fired while also being impossible to shoot prone. That incredible 9 lug design where at least 3 of them make contact.

Extra street cred given if it’s Magnaported, that way your buddies who were standing a little to close can’t hear your screams as you try to find your tooth and stop the bleeding on your eye after thinking you could shoot prone but the recoil pad was 4” below your shoulder and that 340 ain’t an easy pony to tame.

The big bulls really come out of the woodwork if the owner of said rifle has it topped with a high gloss Leupold in the 3x9 range that’s sighted in perfect to the owners flinch. It’s only on for him, if somebody else shoots it it’s about 9” off at a hundo.

Those big bulls lose all fear if it’s a “Crown” version with some gorgeous art of a Polar bear catching a seal emerging from an ice hole carved into the wood with an exacto knife.

Weatherby will never die.

The new Fudd is a kid with a plastic chassis, camo rifle and a carbon fiber barrel. He is shooting a fancy PRC cartridge and Hornady ELD-X, a hushin flatbill and a full kit of Firstlite. He will take any shot from 100-800 yards though the range he zero'd his rifle on only goes to 100. He has never practiced long range shooting but he has watched enough youtube. besides if he misses his first shot he will just walk the rest of his shots in.

 

[ckleeves]

The new Fudd is a kid with a plastic chassis, camo rifle and a carbon fiber barrel. He is shooting a fancy PRC cartridge and Hornady ELD-X, a hushin flatbill and a full kit of Firstlite. He will take any shot from 100-800 yards though the range he zero'd his rifle on only goes to 100. He has never practiced long range shooting but he has watched enough youtube. besides if he misses his first shot he will just walk the rest of his shots in.

Max of 800? Those are rookie numbers your gonna need to pump those up. He’s good to a grand easy with his phone app and some inputs that are questionable to say the least. He’s also a member of every forum and his rifle shoots a easy .25 moa (if he does his part). His dope is well verified by shooting the life sized steel Buffalo at his home range at 600 yards.

 

[Balderdash]

The new Fudd is a kid with a plastic chassis, camo rifle and a carbon fiber barrel. He is shooting a fancy PRC cartridge and Hornady ELD-X, a hushin flatbill and a full kit of Firstlite. He will take any shot from 100-800 yards though the range he zero'd his rifle on only goes to 100. He has never practiced long range shooting but he has watched enough youtube. besides if he misses his first shot he will just walk the rest of his shots in.

Nice post, bra!

I didn't even know what a Hushin hat was until just now!

 

[Trogon]

I get all the criticism for the wby specific cartridges, I wouldnt buy one either. And i think the 9 lug action is ridiculous. BUT "circling the toilet" nah. There are many other mfg's that went down the toilet hit a lump of TP down the line, flooded the yard and came back in the house.

Wby offers: LH!
some good non-wby calibers: 280ai !!
The 307 action isnt really innovative but 3k for one in a MDT26 chassis aint that bad
New carbon stock designs are better than a heck of a lot of other factory rifles


Just saying. They aint as bad as remington or christiansen. Not any better or worse than winchester/browning.

 

[wind gypsy]

The new Fudd is a kid with a plastic chassis, camo rifle and a carbon fiber barrel. He is shooting a fancy PRC cartridge and Hornady ELD-X, a hushin flatbill and a full kit of Firstlite. He will take any shot from 100-800 yards though the range he zero'd his rifle on only goes to 100. He has never practiced long range shooting but he has watched enough youtube. besides if he misses his first shot he will just walk the rest of his shots in.

We need a new name for this.. NAF (New Age Fudd)? While an OG Fudd might think you need a 300wm or bigger for an Elk, a NAF is positive his PRC, ballistic app, and turrets give him super powers so 700 yds is a chip shot.

 

[amassi]

We need a new name for this.. NAF (New Age Fudd)? While an OG Fudd might think you need a 300wm or bigger for an Elk, a NAF is positive his PRC, ballistic app, and turrets give him super powers where 700 yds is a chip shot.

Neofuddist


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[flyboy214]

For the guys interested in a .257 weatherby take a hard look at 6.5 rpm first if you want a light magnum weatherby. 6.5 rpm beats 257 across the board. Better bullets, lighter rifles, lower recoil, marginally better barrel life, and a more modern case/chamber. The the 6.5 rpm ammo is cheaper as well.

I haven't shot a 257 or the 6.5 RPM yet.

I do have original Mk V backcountry in 6.5-300 and it is pretty dumb. With a cheap leupold I pulled off my muzzleloader it has shot around 1.25-1.5 Moa in a 7.2 lb rifle off of a pack. The recoil is very manageable with the 3-d hex pad and muzzle brake. I bought it because I have to use copper bullets in California and I don't trust them at low velocities. At the time, 6.5 rpm was not available and nobody had lefty 6.5 PRCs at a competitive price.

I'll put a trijicon on the 6.5-300 at some point.

 

[bmart2622]

Is there an apples to apples comparison in your opinion - at least for manufactured ammo? I for a long time had the 257 on my list, but one reason I have not followed through is the ammo hurdle. That doesn't mean that those who made a different decision are wrong. My best hunting buddy has locked himself into 6.5-300 Wby with the rounds loaded by his custom rifle maker. He doesn't care - it's the easy button for him.

I handload so I can navigate the " hurdle". I did shoot some factory Nosler ammo when I first got it. But comparing Normas cheapest offering in 6.5prc to Weatherby ammo is definitely not apples to apples.

 

[fwafwow]

I handload so I can navigate the " hurdle". I did shoot some factory Nosler ammo when I first got it. But comparing Normas cheapest offering in 6.5prc to Weatherby ammo is definitely not apples to apples.

I figured. That's why I asked if there's an apples to apples comparison.

 

[Hnthrdr]

It gets even better. Got this from Weatherby today:


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Now you can have $ellout $teve cook for you. What a thrill that would be!

Would be hilarious to get ahold of Matt and have Steve cook dinner for you and his brother… would make for some good/awkward convo

 

[bmart2622]

I figured. That's why I asked if there's an apples to apples comparison.

The Nosler ammo did shoot pretty good though. At that time I think I paid $60-70/box

 

[ckleeves]

It gets even better. Got this from Weatherby today:


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Now you can have $ellout $teve cook for you. What a thrill that would be!

As thrilling as being gone for 3 days out of town to eat a farm raised bison’s testicles and tail is I’ll pass. There are a bunch of things I would rather do, like mow my lawn and clean out my garage.

 

[flyboy214]

Weatherby just kicked off their Black Friday sales of their Mark V action and the 15% off applies to build to order 7mm PRC rifles as well.

 

[Unckebob]

I get all the criticism for the wby specific cartridges, I wouldnt buy one either. And i think the 9 lug action is ridiculous. BUT "circling the toilet" nah. There are many other mfg's that went down the toilet hit a lump of TP down the line, flooded the yard and came back in the house.

Wby offers: LH!
some good non-wby calibers: 280ai !!
The 307 action isnt really innovative but 3k for one in a MDT26 chassis aint that bad
New carbon stock designs are better than a heck of a lot of other factory rifles


Just saying. They aint as bad as remington or christiansen. Not any better or worse than winchester/browning.

The Back Country 2.0's are an interesting product that would interest me if I was in the market for that kind of rifle.

Yes, the Model 700 clones aren't particularly exciting, but if they build the action correctly, they will sell a lot of rifles if they hit the quality/price mark correctly.

If they offered the 307 in 6.8W, I bet they would sell every one they make.

 

[huntsman22]

I have yet to meet ANYONE that wants a 6.8W........

 

[amassi]

I have yet to meet ANYONE that wants a 6.8W........

Well uncle bob sure does
Or he works for baco


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[Mike D Texas]

Is there an apples to apples comparison in your opinion - at least for manufactured ammo? I for a long time had the 257 on my list, but one reason I have not followed through is the ammo hurdle. That doesn't mean that those who made a different decision are wrong. My best hunting buddy has locked himself into 6.5-300 Wby with the rounds loaded by his custom rifle maker. He doesn't care - it's the easy button for him.

I’m a bit the same way. Other than my .308 and 6.5 Grendel won’t own a singe SAAMI cartridge.

Ammo cost is the least of my considerations when building a rifle.


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[Wacko]

After reading a bit of this post I find it quite amusing. I don't necessarily agree with what WBY is doing, but at least they are trying to do something. Hopefully they will get the train moving more in a little better direction.

The WBY cartridges are high velocity this is true. If they updated twists they could shoot better bc bullets. Making all the saami rounds available would sell more plain and simple.

I just struggle to see the difference between a WBY high velocity round and say...the 6 UM that is being developed here? High velocity, high bc, less drop, less drift, more velocity downrange, lower recoil. Barrel burner, no factory ammo. It's a modern WBY idea execution.

Weatherby started that with what he had at the time. I think he did a pretty good job. They just need to keep up with the changes.

Just my 2 pennies

 

[bmart2622]

I get your point and agree but what gun store can you walk into and buy a 6UM?