Vertical 3 Pin Options?

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I've came to conclusion that I am putting a vertical 3 pin on my new bow and just wondering if their are any other options out there I am missing. I like the SH triple stack but due to the sight housing ID and weight its a no go for me. I know dark owl makes 3 pin vertical sights. And the one I am leaning towards is the new Dialed Pruf. I went to a scheels near me and held one and was just insanely impressed. I didn't like the arxos because for $500+ sight it was missing a lot. But the new pruf fixed every complaint I had about the arxos. I called and talked to their team for a while and learned they can do custom pin configurations(color, sizes, etc.) for me so that's definitely where I am headed. Just wondering if there is any other options you guys think I should consider.
 

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CBE has one
 
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How far are your shots, typically?
I’m a whitetail guy. So almost always under 40. I’m planning on hunting in different areas on my land where shots could go 50+ so that’s why I’m a fan of that 3rd one. I’m also planning on doing some spot and stalk so that’s why I like a triple over a double. When I talked to the guys at dialed and told them my speeds they said my pins should fall around 20 35 50 which is exactly what I want.
 
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CBE has one
I seen that one but I don’t think they make it in a picatinny version which I’m looking to get for my new hoyt
 

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I haven't used a pic mounted sight, what is gained?
I've read a few things that seem like marketing stuff more than anything.

The claim is the picatany rail allows items to be mounted nearer to the center line of the bow instead of off to the side.

For resale purposes, I think a standard mounting sight would be the way to go. I have a combination of rail and standard mounted accessories and do not notice a difference.

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I haven't used a pic mounted sight, what is gained?
Just helps balance bow better. Bolts on front of riser so there isn’t weight on the side. Also allows quiver to be mounted tighter for better balance. I also like that I can move a pic mount up and down a little bit to maximize distance and stuff for the sight
 

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Just helps balance bow better. Bolts on front of riser so there isn’t weight on the side. Also allows quiver to be mounted tighter for better balance. I also like that I can move a pic mount up and down a little bit to maximize distance and stuff for the sight
Have you used one though?

I've read a few things that seem like marketing stuff more than anything.


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That's my perception of them, without having used one. I've been hoping to run across some objective testing of standard/pic/whatever Mathews calls theirs/whatever Bowtech calls theirs to see if scores jump or maybe that shot sense float tracker thing would do the trick.

I know I always have to fiddle with my quiver to keep the hood and nocks from touching the limbs at full draw, so that "benefit" is out for me. Some quiver companies are even selling spacers to kick the mounting bracket away from the riser for folks using an inline style sight.
 

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When I talked to the guys at dialed and told them my speeds they said my pins should fall around 20 35 50 which is exactly what I want.

I run 30/40/50 and found it to work really well as its only 2" high at 20 and good to 60 without touching it.

That combo they suggested adds a bit too much thought IMO but do what YOU are comfortable with.
 
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Have you used one though?


That's my perception of them, without having used one. I've been hoping to run across some objective testing of standard/pic/whatever Mathews calls theirs/whatever Bowtech calls theirs to see if scores jump or maybe that shot sense float tracker thing would do the trick.

I know I always have to fiddle with my quiver to keep the hood and nocks from touching the limbs at full draw, so that "benefit" is out for me. Some quiver companies are even selling spacers to kick the mounting bracket away from the riser for folks using an inline style sight.
You don’t have to use one to know bolting things inline with your bow balances better. That’s just physics plain and simple. And yes most new quiver systems need rest/sights mounted inline because the arrows sit so close to the riser. And like said above pic mounts are typically lighter than standard mounts which is another bonus
 
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I run 30/40/50 and found it to work really well as its only 2" high at 20 and good to 60 without touching it.

That combo they suggested adds a bit too much thought IMO but do what YOU are comfortable with.
I’m a whitetail guy so I always have a 20 pin. Just cause of the nature of hunting. If I were to go out west I’d ditch the 20 and start at 30 like you mentioned. I’m not customizing a ton. Most likely just doing top pin green, middle red, bottom green. And then the top to pins 0.019 and the bottom 0.010 as the bottom pin will never see a shot under 50
 

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You don’t have to use one to know bolting things inline with your bow balances better. That’s just physics plain and simple.
Sure you do, otherwise you don't know, you assume. What has your experience with a pic sight done to improving your down range results? What changes on your bow has a pic sight afforded you in your experience?

I'm excited to learn from your first hand knowledge; we are buying two new sights in the next couple of months and your experience might be helpful.
 

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Ultraview has a vertical 3 pin sight as well. I have 0 experience with it, but another option for you to look at.

I’d be curious what you think of the pic mount if you go that route. Just last week I ended up extending my dovetail and it improved my sight picture significantly-the pic mounts don’t really allow for that/torque tuning (may or may not matter for your setup). I’ve been tempted to get one, but that experience kinda made me happy I stayed with the dovetail.
*This was on a new bow and I recently changed my draw length, so the adjustability was great to get things dialed in. If your setup is good and the pic mount matches your current sight length the loss of adjustability may not matter.
 
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Do you know how much?
Not sure. Depends on the sight but around an ounce seem pretty standard

Sure you do, otherwise you don't know, you assume. What has your experience with a pic sight done to improving your down range results? What changes on your bow has a pic sight afforded you in your experience?

I'm excited to learn from your first hand knowledge; we are buying two new sights in the next couple of months and your experience might be helpful.
Never shot a pic sight before. But after holding some bows with pic sights on them I can tell you for a fact they balance nicer. So I'll need less weight on a back bar to get it to balance nice. This will be my first pic sight so can't speak to accuracy. The sight mounting system won't affect accuracy but the better balance from moun
ting that way could definitely contribute to that.

Ultraview has a vertical 3 pin sight as well. I have 0 experience with it, but another option for you to look at.

I’d be curious what you think of the pic mount if you go that route. Just last week I ended up extending my dovetail and it improved my sight picture significantly-the pic mounts don’t really allow for that/torque tuning (may or may not matter for your setup). I’ve been tempted to get one, but that experience kinda made me happy I stayed with the dovetail.
*This was on a new bow and I recently changed my draw length, so the adjustability was great to get things dialed in. If your setup is good and the pic mount matches your current sight length the loss of adjustability may not matter.
Torque tuning for me is not a worry as I am not a good enough shot to shoot a difference. I'm a good shooter but not on that level yet. Someday. Always getting better. Ive seen the UV I forgot about it. But I hate how dim their pins are and I'm in a state where I can't use a sight light so that rules it out for me.
 

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[...] And the one I am leaning towards is the new Dialed Pruf. I went to a scheels near me and held one and was just insanely impressed. I didn't like the arxos because for $500+ sight it was missing a lot. But the new pruf fixed every complaint I had about the arxos [...] Just wondering if there is any other options you guys think I should consider.
Yeah, you should consider that $500 for an eastern whitetail sight is insane.
 

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So I'll need less weight on a back bar to get it to balance nice. This will be my first pic sight so can't speak to accuracy. The sight mounting system won't affect accuracy but the better balance from moun
ting that way could definitely contribute to that.

How much weight off the back bar?

It is interesting to learn that rotating an ounce around the fulcrum would eliminate more than an ounce at the end of the lever. The plain and simple physics of that concept is law defying and I am interested to learn how it goes once you have one in hand.
 
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Yeah, you should consider that $500 for an eastern whitetail sight is insane.
Not eastern. So nice try. And this setup isgoing to be mainly whitetail. But I am going to have this setup for a while. And will possible chase elk and mule deer with it. So ya I want to invest in high quality gear. That will work all over the country
 
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