hoosierhunter11
Lil-Rokslider
Holy ****. I just dove into the Utah points system last year. I honestly think I’m out. $$ likely is better served elsewhere. Seems like about $340 just to buy points for elk and deer.
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When MT doubled the price of deer/elk/combo tags, NR's freaked out and you could by tags OTC for a number of years. Once again it takes 2-3 years to draw now. People will still buy them.
Let me know when you find outWhich Walmart can I go buy a general season deer tag at?
I'm not referring to leftover tags in that period. There were fewer people applying than they had tags, hence essentially OTC.While I agree with the basic premise of your post comparing montana to utah is apples to oranges. The leftovers in montana coincide with a big time downturn in the economy( same with the idaho slow sales during that time period).
That's what they're banking on, they probably figure there's enough people invested in the long game that'll keep going.This leaves a bad taste in my mouth, as someone who loves to hunt I apply in states across the west. Every states draw process is different and you have to play them differently. As a non resident Utah is mostly a long game, which I was fine with since I started applying in my early 20’s and have accumulated 8 or so points. I viewed the app fees in Utah as a donation for wildlife knowing I potentially wouldn’t be drawing for 20+ years. But increasing the application fees ~400% in 5 or 6 years seems ridiculous. Now I’m in a position to where I continue applying at these new extremely high costs or walk away and forget about the money I’ve already spent to accumulate the points I have.
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Probably one down in St George. Must be how all those people get them Pine Valley tags.Let me know when you find out![]()
80 posts in just over two years as a member.Slightly off topic.
But I honestly think 406hunter has never added anything beneficial to this forum.
All he can due is hit the laugh emotion. Don't think I've ever seen an actual post. Must not know english, or is a twelve year old. One of the two.
I understand that it is still a draw for resident general deer, but it does only cost y'all $46 per tag.Probably one down in St George. Must be how all those people get them Pine Valley tags.
Maybe I’m not following at what you are getting at. My original statement was a general statement about having people actively participating in hunting. Nothing to do with R vs NR opportunities. It was about anti hunters increasing costs to have more people stop being involved, therefore when ballot initiatives come more people will not care about voting prohunting. I am not opposed to paying more than residents to hunt out west, but these increases would be hard to swallow if I was applying in Utah.Too be fair. Non-resident hunting is not about 'opportunity'. For example, I see you are from Wisconsin. Last year hunters shot 189K deer per this article.
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Deer harvested during this year’s Wisconsin gun hunt up 5.2%
Hunters registered 189,622 deer during the 2024 season, preliminary data shows.spectrumnews1.com
That is 69K more elk than LIVE in Idaho and 115K more than live in Utah. In other words hunters in WI last year harvested 2.5 deer for every elk living in Utah. Elk, especially non resident elk, is not a 'opportunity' hunt. Adventure hunt, Destination hunt. Dream hunt. But not 'opportunity'.
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2024 Estimated Elk Herd Populations by State
Top 5 Elk States & Links to Their Wildlife Agencies Where do you even begin as an out of state hunter to plan an archery or rifle elk hunt? Some states make it easier, and certainly more attainable, than others. Here are the top 5 states as of 2024 boasting the largest elk herds and links to...rugidgear.com