**UPDATED 04/21 A WIN!! ** California bear hunters need your help once again!

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Thanks all!


Update: So the F&G commission heard the petition from HSUS today. Highlights from the anti hunting side;

Fires have destroyed bear habitat, killed an unk number of bears, killed off unk number of females and cubs
Urban sprawl has taken hundreds of thousands of acres from bears
Majority of California residents oppose all hunting (supposedly approx 70%)
Bears are only killed for trophys
Hundreds of bears are poached and not part of the F&G kill/take numbers
Drought and man made climate change is negatively affecting bear populations
Current management plan is too old and needs updating
Bear/human encounters have increased which indicates loss of bear habitat which somehow should equate to a hunting ban/moratoriums

The big positive was most opposed the petition

Thanks to everyone that commented to the commission to deny the HSUS petition. Also thanks to everyone that signed the email petition in support of bear hunting in California. I can tell you this isn't over, here and elsewhere. So stay vigilant, get involved, and make your voice heard!
 
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7-Pointers

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Love to support bear hunting, but why does the graph say the bear population dropped as soon as hunting with dogs was banned? What's the rationale there?
 
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Love to support bear hunting, but why does the graph say the bear population dropped as soon as hunting with dogs was banned? What's the rationale there?
From what I have heard/read, bear populations are weighted heavily on kill numbers. The lower the take the lower the population based on that data. If you look at the graph, the population immediately dropped after dogs were banned, which makes no sense. The population also dipped during covid when there were less hunters and less take.
 

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Love to support bear hunting, but why does the graph say the bear population dropped as soon as hunting with dogs was banned? What's the rationale there?
They need to revise the model that estimates the bear population. It must be tied to the harvest numbers and once dogs were banned in 2012 the 1700 bear harvest quota was never reached again and dropped to around 1200 bears being taken every year since. Although there are some hardcore bear hunters in CA, most bears now are taken by deer hunters with a bear tag in their pocket.

The following article provides more detail on the proposed ban;

https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article257512894.html

There is no shortage of bears in CA! Ask any hunter that lives here they are everywhere…

Horniac
 

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I had brought this issue up in mid January and it petered out unfortunately, glad to see it up again and thanks to all that participated...
 

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What agency made that graph? Was that Ca. DFW or HSUS? There is no way that is even close to accurate. Allow hunting with dogs for one year and the quota will be met.
 

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Done when it first came out.
What agency made that graph? Was that Ca. DFW or HSUS? There is no way that is even close to accurate. Allow hunting with dogs for one year and the quota will be met.
I believe HSUS made the graph. They are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. If they think the unfilled quota to kill ratio dictates a healthy bear population, then we need to pump those rookie numbers up.

“With so many hunters in the field, why weren’t there more dead bears in the last decade?” asked Wendy Keefover, a Humane Society senior strategist for native carnivore protection. “No one knows, but it could be that there are not many bears living in California’s suitable bear habitats.”

Obviously this idiot keefover has not spent any time in suitable bear habitat. We know the answer too - use of dogs was banned. I spend more time in the field than your average hunter and see more and more bears every year without specifically looking for them - im usually deer hunting, then after deer season i bear hunt. This year Im going after bear and may get a deer. Bear are not easy to hunt spot and stalk in our thicker forests. Added a spotting scope to my kit to help locate these guys. If i went to tahoe i could probably fill a tag in a day with a possible garbage bear.
 
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