Unpopular opinions

[samhelmer]

Most of these seem like popular rokslide opinions - here's some real unpopular opinions for ya

- you're not cooler because you hunt in solids,
- Nosler Accubond is the best hunting bullet
- your max range rifle hunting should be 350 yards, max bow

Most of these seem like popular rokslide opinions - here's some real unpopular opinions for ya

- you're not cooler because you hunt in solids,
- Nosler Accubond is the best hunting bullet
- your max range rifle hunting should be 350 yards, max bow range 50

But you do realize camo is a gimmick, right?

Why are those the numbers chosen for shooting distances? Just pick some random numbers?

 

[goathunter]

But you do realize camo is a gimmick, right?

Why are those the numbers chosen for shooting distances? Just pick some random numbers?

Ok camo may be a gimmick but what are you doing paying $200 for khaki pants?

Yes random, short distances.

The long range rifle business is so popular now, and everyone wants to dump all this money into a LR setup, but it isn't at all necessary for hunting, which can all be done close range spot and stalk. No offense I would love to be that skilled of marksman

The archery part, well I don't think anyone, including myself, should be hucking it past 50.

They're supposed to be unpopular opinions right?!

 

[MuleyFever]

The rokstok looks like a 14 year old 3d printed it in his parents basement.

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[samhelmer]

Ok camo may be a gimmick but what are you doing paying $200 for khaki pants?

Yes random, short distances.

The long range rifle business is so popular now, and everyone wants to dump all this money into a LR setup, but it isn't at all necessary for hunting, which can all be done close range spot and stalk. No offense I would love to be that skilled of marksman

The archery part, well I don't think anyone, including myself, should be hucking it past 50.

They're supposed to be unpopular opinions right?!

Fair enough.

However it is really fun shooting arrows at long distance during practice. I regularly shoot at 100 yards during practice.

 

[Skerhunter]

I have been needing a good rant!

Every day that goes by hunting/fishing is getting exponentially easier, but enjoyment/quality is going down just as fast because everyone is so short sighted/selfish!

Deer hunters buckle up - getting to hunt during the rut with a rifle on easy to obtain gen/otc/draw tags is not sustainable long term! Maybe you can get away with it for a bit longer but eventually the external factors (habitat loss/weather/disease/over harvest) will catch up with you! Your preference for “opportunity hunts” is selfish!

“Shoot what makes you happy” - makes me cringe now. Accomplished hunters shooting sub adult bucks (2.5-3.5 year olds) isn’t hunting, just shooting.

Farmers and some ranchers have quickly became the enemy when it comes to conservation and the environment chasing the almighty dollar. Most have been brainwashed by sales/marketing tactics over the last 20-30 years, but there are some glimmers of hope out there. Hopefully things balance back out before it is too late! Unfortunately where I learned to hunt will never be the same unless ag completely tanks. The habitat for the mule deer, quail, pheasants was destroyed and the populations quickly disappeared. The remaining animals live in quickly shrinking islands of habitat, with increasing hunting pressure.

Western hunting in general - unless hunter numbers fall back to where they were 10 years ago - we need to make changes to tags if we want to improve hunt quality. Personally I don’t want to screw up your hunt and would prefer if you don’t mess up mine. There is a limited amount of public land and the number of animals. The only way to reduce over crowding now is to reduce the number of people in the field - pick a unit/area and a weapon needs to happen and then tag allocations adjusted accordingly.

 

[NMJM]

Suppressors for hunting are dumb. It's an overpriced tube that makes your rifle heavy, ungainly, and unsightly. It's not for your hearing protection - you can accomplish that for 1% of the price. It's an excuse for you to buy something because you think it's cool.

I used to agree with you until I tried one. Now I am hooked on suppressors. I agree on the negatives of extra length and weight but for me the advantages of reduced recoil, reduced sound, increase of 50-75fps and most (not all) loads group a little better the advantage outweigh the price and disadvantages.

 

[samhelmer]

Suppressors for hunting are dumb. It's an overpriced tube that makes your rifle heavy, ungainly, and unsightly. It's not for your hearing protection - you can accomplish that for 1% of the price. It's an excuse for you to buy something because you think it's cool.

This one I can’t get on board with. They are a game changer to me. Makes a 300 enjoyable to shoot. A kid could shoot it.

I think that they are beneficial to improving shooting ability for kids also. In my opinion, half the reason kids flinch is because of the sound.

 

[Z71&Gun]

"Guys who call themselves meat hunters just can't kill big bucks."

It's more complicated than that. We can't kill big bucks and aren't willing to risk not killing anything at all.

 

[MarlinMark]

Yeti coolers are for people with more money than brains. Unless your transporting human organs, $300 coolers are as wasteful as a sprinkler in the desert.

Not if you are gifted them.

 

[SwiftShot]

This is going to be really controversial for the older age group, but not everyone was Kung-fu Fighting.
That is right I said it.

 

[MarlinMark]

You want unpopular: A lot of units should be closed to mule deer hunting.

 

[Thehillbillee]

You don’t need a >$500 backpack, a <7lb rifle, or any of the other latest and greatest hunting/backpacking equipment to have a great backcountry hunt in the mountains. Why do you need to worry about shaving 5-10lbs of weight from your back when your hoping to haul 100+ lbs out?

 

[go_deep]

You don’t need a >$500 backpack, a <7lb rifle, or any of the other latest and greatest hunting/backpacking equipment to have a great backcountry hunt in the mountains. Why do you need to worry about shaving 5-10lbs of weight from your back when your hoping to haul 100+ lbs out?

Your right, till you get older and minus 10 pounds for 9 of the 10 days matters to your shoulder, or knee, or ankle, or back.

 

[PredatoronthePrairie]

Just cause you hike alot of miles.
Dosnt make you a good elk killer.

 

[WCB]

You don’t need a >$500 backpack, a <7lb rifle, or any of the other latest and greatest hunting/backpacking equipment to have a great backcountry hunt in the mountains. Why do you need to worry about shaving 5-10lbs of weight from your back when your hoping to haul 100+ lbs out?

For the most part I agree. Even more so when most guys could shave off 15-20lbs of themselves. Funny the guys I see in "high performance" hunting gear that are built like bags of milk.

 

[longrangelead]

It's funny, with hunter #'s dwindling how can hunting pressure be up? Maybe in certain areas that didn't used to see as many people because of tools like OnX. But that would mean other areas are lessening in pressure. They have to be with less hunting #'s.

Also, Rememeber when we used to celebrate things like Meateater for increasing adult onset hunters because they were increasing the amount of people that would be a support for hunters at the ballet box.....?

I grew up in MT, yes MT, and where we hunted you saw other hunters at every pull off in the woods. You went on to the next spot and hunted there. We shared. And we were successfull. I mean when I'm out hunting I'm in competition with the targeting species right? What's a little competition with another hunter?

I haven't done a deep dive so take this as something to think about.

I'm also in Mt but have hunted other states for years. I've seen people in the field increase steadily as well.

My observation vs "statistics"
When I hear "hunter numbers are decreasing", it's usually followed up with " hunters are x % now but used to be x%"

So as the overall population grows, hunter % (of overall population) may fall while actual people in the field still rise. Simply researching tags sold will show this trend.

I've also found people willing to put in the work is a smaller % too.

 

[jmez]

I think western hunters are a little jaded. The vast majority of hunters are east of the Mississippi. Their opportunities decrease by the year.

They either quit or drive to hunt. Overall numbers are down. The one left are just showing up in New places.

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[ddd-shooter]

I think western hunters are a little jaded. The vast majority of hunters are east of the Mississippi. Their opportunities decrease by the year.

They either quit or drive to hunt. Overall numbers are down. The one left are just showing up in New places.

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I can’t find anywhere that says overall numbers are down. At least not since the late eighties.

 

[Maverick1]

14-year-old college grad benefitted the most from this parenting strategy

Mike Wimmer is a self-described extrovert who at age 11 won homecoming court for his high school sophomore class. His friends range from the kids he grew up with, to the 20-somethings in his classes at Carolina University.

www.nbcbayarea.com

I never really enjoyed being called a child prodigy.

 

[goathunter]

You don’t need a >$500 backpack, a <7lb rifle, or any of the other latest and greatest hunting/backpacking equipment to have a great backcountry hunt in the mountains. Why do you need to worry about shaving 5-10lbs of weight from your back when your hoping to haul 100+ lbs out?

I don't about you, but I carry around that empty pack for a lot longer than the full one.