Unknown reaper accuracy testing with short barrels

[Itased]

Has anyone done any accuracy testing with a reaper. Specifically with a 18” barreled 6.5 PRC or something similar? In my testing with other lightweight Ti suppressors the groups open up ridiculously between shots 1 and 2 then when compared to heavier suppressors. I don’t want to drop another 1000 for a suppressor that does the same thing.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

In my testing with other lightweight Ti suppressors the groups open up ridiculously between shots 1 and 2

Theres something else going on there.

 

[Itased]

Theres something else going on there.

So I can run one of these lightweight cans, I am not naming them because don’t really want to get into an argument about brands and so on. So first can, shot 1 is where my zero is shot 2 and 3 shift an inch away and stack next to each other at 100yrds. Second can shot 1 is my zero shot 2 is anywhere from an inch to two away and shot 3 is usually somewhere else. I can put a TBAC ultra 7 or Ultra 5 or Sico Omega and gun shots sub .5 3 shot groups and my cone is usually .8 for 20 rounds. So that’s why I am sure it’s the lightweight suppressors

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

So I can run one of these lightweight cans, I am not naming them because don’t really want to get into an argument about brands and so on. So first can, shot 1 is where my zero is shot 2 and 3 shift an inch away and stack next to each other at 100yrds. Second can shot 1 is my zero shot 2 is anywhere from an inch to two away and shot 3 is usually somewhere else. I can put a TBAC ultra 7 or Ultra 5 or Sico Omega and gun shots sub .5 3 shot groups and my cone is usually .8 for 20 rounds. So that’s why I am sure it’s the lightweight suppressors

Ask @Formidilosus. What I mean is that your zero shift is most likely coming from your gun, not the suppressor. Could be action screws not torqued or too tight of a barrel channel, where even a bit of weight on the end is causing your barrel and stock to make contact, resulting in the shift.

 

[Hondo64d]

Has anyone done any accuracy testing with a reaper. Specifically with a 18” barreled 6.5 PRC or something similar? In my testing with other lightweight Ti suppressors the groups open up ridiculously between shots 1 and 2 then when compared to heavier suppressors. I don’t want to drop another 1000 for a suppressor that does the same thing.

My 20” .308 bugholes with the reaper on it. Target shows 1st group shot through my reaper.

John

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I haven’t tested this with a Reaper (don’t own one yet), but I haven’t seen this with any other suppressor, light or heavy,

 

[Itased]

Ask @Formidilosus. What I mean is that your zero shift is most likely coming from your gun, not the suppressor. Could be action screws not torqued or too tight of a barrel channel, where even a bit of weight on the end is causing your barrel and stock to make contact, resulting in the shift.

I have checked and double checked all that. Plus have tried it with 3 different bullet combos always the same result the lightweight cans shift and the heavier ones don’t.

 

[Formidilosus]

I have checked and double checked all that. Plus have tried it with 3 different bullet combos always the same result the lightweight cans shift and the heavier ones don’t.

There is something wrong with the system- could be rifle, could be suppressor.

To anywhere your question- now, proper LW cans do not exhibit the behavior that you are describing. However, what you are describe can also not be definitively blamed on the can. 3 shot groups aren’t telling you anything. Shoot 30 shots- at whatever speed you want, with the heavy can, and then 30 shots with the light can. 30 samples gives you a 95% probability- 3 shots is nearly useless. At the end of their 2x 30 shot groups, it is mostly likely that both group are statistically identical.

 

[Itased]

There is something wrong with the system- could be rifle, could be suppressor.

To anywhere your question- now, proper LW cans do not exhibit the behavior that you are describing. However, what you are describe can also not be definitively blamed on the can. 3 shot groups aren’t telling you anything. Shoot 30 shots- at whatever speed you want, with the heavy can, and then 30 shots with the light can. 30 samples gives you a 95% probability- 3 shots is nearly useless. At the end of their 2x 30 shot groups, it is mostly likely that both group are statistically identical.

So I have done multiple 20 round cones with the TBAC ultra 7 and it is between .8-.9. I haven’t messed with the other cans when 3 shots is usually pushing over an inch. This is why I blame the cans. When it’s lights out with a thunder beast and awful with these other 2 cans.

 

[Formidilosus]

So I have done multiple 20 round cones with the TBAC ultra 7 and it is between .8-.9. I haven’t messed with the other cans when 3 shots is usually pushing over an inch. This is why I blame the cans. When it’s lights out with a thunder beast and awful with these other 2 cans.

And it may very well be the cans- without know what they are, can’t say if there is history there. However, it is not because they are lightweight. There is no inherent issue with properly made LW cans.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

So I have done multiple 20 round cones with the TBAC ultra 7 and it is between .8-.9. I haven’t messed with the other cans when 3 shots is usually pushing over an inch. This is why I blame the cans. When it’s lights out with a thunder beast and awful with these other 2 cans.

Just name the cans and be done with it. This website isn’t just for saying nice things. The only way anyone else can see if there is a widespread problem is to test them.

 

[Itased]

And it may very well be the cans- without know what they are, can’t say if there is history there. However, it is not because they are lightweight. There is no inherent issue with properly made LW cans.

It’s a DA Nomad Ti XC and a Rugged Alaskan Ti. Both cans where bought because they are lighter and shorter then my Ultra 7 and specifically for this 18” barreled 6.5 prc. Both cans have also been shot on a 20” barreled 6.5prc with very similar results. The DA currently is on a 223 and is super accurate with that gun and the rugged is on a 270 win and is also super accurate. The gun in question is a GA Precision built, in a manners pro hunter stock. It’s fully bedded and torqued to manners specs. Scope is a maven rs1.2 in Hawkins rings torqued to Hawkins specs. So like I said it’s something about these cans on my shorter barreled 6.5 prc that makes it open up compared to when I am using TBAC.

 

[Formidilosus]

It’s a DA Nomad Ti XC and a Rugged Alaskan Ti. Both cans where bought because they are lighter and shorter then my Ultra 7 and specifically for this 18” barreled 6.5 prc. Both cans have also been shot on a 20” barreled 6.5prc with very similar results. The DA currently is on a 223 and is super accurate with that gun and the rugged is on a 270 win and is also super accurate. The gun in question is a GA Precision built, in a manners pro hunter stock. It’s fully bedded and torqued to manners specs. Scope is a maven rs1.2 in Hawkins rings torqued to Hawkins specs. So like I said it’s something about these cans on my shorter barreled 6.5 prc that makes it open up compared to when I am using TBAC.

If I recall correctly, there has been a few people with precision issues with DA Nomad’s. Worth checking. I don’t know anyone that likes that Alaskan Ti- everyone I know never made it to the grouping part before they got other cans.

 

[BAKPAKR]

If I recall correctly, there has been a few people with precision issues with DA Nomad’s. Worth checking.

Well, darn! I am thinking about taking the plunge into the suppressor world, and the Nomad Ti XC was on my short list. I guess I will read more reviews…

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Formidilosus]

Well, darn! I am thinking about taking the plunge into the suppressor world, and the Nomad Ti XC was on my short list. I guess I will read more reviews…

Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah man- search it. I could defiantly be mistaken. I do know that Nomad Ti XC sounds good for sure.

 

[HuntHarder]

Buddy of mine has the Nomad Ti-XC. He has no issues and that can does sound good, thats for sure.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

It’s a DA Nomad Ti XC and a Rugged Alaskan Ti. Both cans where bought because they are lighter and shorter then my Ultra 7 and specifically for this 18” barreled 6.5 prc. Both cans have also been shot on a 20” barreled 6.5prc with very similar results. The DA currently is on a 223 and is super accurate with that gun and the rugged is on a 270 win and is also super accurate. The gun in question is a GA Precision built, in a manners pro hunter stock. It’s fully bedded and torqued to manners specs. Scope is a maven rs1.2 in Hawkins rings torqued to Hawkins specs. So like I said it’s something about these cans on my shorter barreled 6.5 prc that makes it open up compared to when I am using TBAC.

It should be plenty easy to find lots of people who own and like the Dead Air Nomad Ti XC. If there are problems with precision using that can, I think a quick forum search would turn up examples.

I have never heard more vitriol directed towards a can than the Rugged Alaskan Ti, except maybe all Banish suppressors combined (or the cans in The Jerk). I have never used it, so I can’t say that it deserves the hate or not. But a number of outspoken people around here hate that can.

 

[Itased]

If I recall correctly, there has been a few people with precision issues with DA Nomad’s. Worth checking. I don’t know anyone that likes that Alaskan Ti- everyone I know never made it to the grouping part before they got other cans.

Yea the Alaskan is a waste of money. Since you have shot the reaper I am assuming you haven’t seen anything like this with that can? I am just gun shy spending another 1000 for a can for this gun and run into not being able to use it on this gun.

 

[Formidilosus]

Yea the Alaskan is a waste of money. Since you have shot the reaper I am assuming you haven’t seen anything like this with that can? I am just gun shy spending another 1000 for a can for this gun and run into not being able to use it on this gun.

Yes. I have over 10,000 rounds through Reapers. It’s not a thing. If it is a thing, you have a rifle issue.

 

[Itased]

Buddy of mine has the Nomad Ti-XC. He has no issues and that can does sound good, thats for sure.

It sounds great on my 6.5, sounds awesome on my 223