Understanding Mountain Thermals

cnelk

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Some may recognize this, but a refresher is always a good thing:

The topic of thermals seems to come up occasionally and hope this post is helpful.

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Thermals should not be confused with Wind.
Thermals are driven mostly by the heating/cooling of the earth surface

Thermals are very gentle movements of the air, sometimes almost imperceptible.
Cold air sinking below the rising thermal causes a downdraft.
That\'s why you can feel thermals in your face in one spot, then feel it on your neck in another.

Typically the thermals move DOWNSLOPE in the mornings until the air heats. When the air heats up, it mixes.
After the air heats up and stabilizes, the thermals will be UPSLOPE during the day.
Later in the day, as the air starts to cool, the thermals will mix again and then just before dark, they will be predominately DOWNSLOPE again

Thermals are weather dependent. You wont have any consistent thermals if a weather front is moving thru.

Slope direction definitely has an impact. The sun or prevailing wind will warm one side or mix it before the other.

Here\'s some more info regarding thermals...
Downslope wind—

1. A wind directed down a slope, often used to describe winds produced by processes larger in scale than the slope. Because this flow produces subsidence, downslope winds experience warming, drying, increasing stability, and clearing if clouds are present.

2. Flow directed down a mountain slope and driven by cooling at the earth\'s surface: a component of the mountain–valley or mountain–plains wind systems; same as katabatic wind.

The many synonyms for downslope flow are sometimes used interchangeably, and this gives rise to ambiguity and confusion. Downslope can be used generically to denote any wind flow blowing down a slope, or it is used specifically for katabatic flows on any scale, such as the nocturnal slope-wind component of mountain–valley wind systems or mountain–plains wind systems.
 

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Some good info thanks for posting, and remember you can fool a bulls eye, but not his nose...
 

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Here the deer use the thermal flow a lot at dusk to keep safe on their travel route to food. One way to defeat this is to hunt a good stiff wind that blows from the opposite direction of the thermal flow.
 

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Nice post cnelk!
and some new words: subsidence, katabatic which probably translate to "wind at your back, bye bye elk"

Give me a good brisk wind. Nothing more deflating than watching milkweed or wind indicator powder do a big 360 around your location.
 

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Some guys use powder to determine thermal direction/s but I prefer fine thread that can be seen floating for up to 60+ yards. On relatively still days there can be subtle differences in thermals that may change from 1 spot to the next.
 

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Killer post. I know this concept was not perceptibly present in any hunting I did until I started chasing elk out west, and I suspect a lot of guys who grew up hunting the Eastern U.S. are the same way
 

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Killer post. I know this concept was not perceptibly present in any hunting I did until I started chasing elk out west, and I suspect a lot of guys who grew up hunting the Eastern U.S. are the same way
Yep! not sure what I'm getting myself into yet/
 

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Yep! not sure what I'm getting myself into yet/

It's all about the topography. Even in the most dramatic Eastern mountains, the amount of elevation and how quickly it happens just isn't on the scale you find it in the Rockies, Tetons, Sierras etc. More volume of mountains that rise much more quickly = different behavior of the air that surrounds them.
 
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Good thread and good, concise, write-up.

I remember reading about thermals as a teen back in the Sports Afield / Outdoor Life / F&S days. But it took me a few years to understand that the air was still moving downhill until about mid-morning. Which of course plays right into the noses of the game we hunt since they are usually moving uphill at that time.

So as the thermals are changing, the critters are getting ready to bed down for the day, to take advantage of the rising thermals. And before they can switch again, the animals move down with the thermals in their face.

Wind/air movement in the mountains is probably one of the biggest differences between western and eastern hunting in my experience. It's so tough to predict out west, but this knowledge sure helps.
 

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If intent is to glass at daybreak from a ridge top, should I set up on west side of drainage so rising sun from east causes my thermal to rise and not drop into area being glassed?
 
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