UM/S2H/Suppressors/Scopes and More!

[Ryan Avery]

Hey @Ryan Avery have you and Robby thought about forming a Rosklide Anonymous group and a halfway house for all the dudes that go broke and get kicked out from buying all the chit you and your collaboratives come up with!?

I may need those resources soon. I recently snuck the OG in, but the Teratorn, Predator, and future Raven might be the tipping point, please HELP!

Does this help?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

If I don’t clean my 22 suppressors around 500 rounds I get blow back shooting them on a pistol. Even taking them apart and leaving them in CLR for 24hr they aren’t clean.

I just got an ultra sonic cleaner to see if that will help. Not a fan of cleaning but the wife and kid don’t like the debris hitting them in the face either.

The ease of cleaning the Banish 22 is definitely a point in its favor. Rimfire suppressors - like rimfire actions - get absolutely filthy and appear to require regular cleaning. And being able to take that one apart and quickly clean the lead and carbon out of it definitely makes it easier.

I can get behind it not being necessary to clean rifle bores or center fire suppressors - at least in certain climates and circumstances or not at the intervals I was taught as a kid - but I haven’t seen any other manufacturer release a rimfire suppressor that seems this hard to clean.

If the US/UM models really can be safely cleaned by firing a few rounds of .223 through them, that sounds almost too good to be true. I’d really like to see a bit more on the cleaning requirements and recommendations for these models.


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[Kaleb]

I cleaned four masks the other day with a few hour soak in clr. The soak a very little cleaning had them good to go. Maybe mine were not as dirty as some peoples or maybe the baffle material in the mask cleans up better with clr? I don’t know? Next time they need cleaned I’ll try it again and report back if it works as well or not.

 

[Sundodger]

Given these cans are made with additive manufacturing and lack typical "hard tooling" associated with other manufacturing techniques is there a reason you are not able to order a 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, etc. OG? You can set up the base part number and have dash iterations for each bullet diameter.

In the same vein I was surprised to see a modular end cap on the road map of other printed suppressors, increasing cost and complexity of the can for performance gains that might not be all that noticeable.

Is the slight performance increase of optimizing baffle diameter not worth the extra sku's to keep track of from a logistics standpoint?

 

[Andouille]

Anyone have feedback on this suppressor's effectiveness on a 300 win mag or 300Wsm size cartridge? I have a Banish Backcountry on my 30-06 that doesn't quite cut it for my 300 wsm in terms of recoil and sound suppression. I saw that this can survoved torture tested on large 30 cals, but didn't catch any discussion of whether it would be a reasonable choice for 30 cal and magnum cartridges (approx 65+ grains of powder.)

I'm unaware of any effective 30cal magnum suppressor other than the AB Raptor 8 or 10 that isn't 6"+ in added overall gun length.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Anyone have feedback on this suppressor's effectiveness on a 300 win mag or 300Wsm size cartridge? I have a Banish Backcountry on my 30-06 that doesn't quite cut it for my 300 wsm in terms of recoil and sound suppression. I saw that this can survoved torture tested on large 30 cals, but didn't catch any discussion of whether it would be a reasonable choice for 30 cal and magnum cartridges (approx 65+ grains of powder.)

I'm unaware of any effective 30cal magnum suppressor other than the AB Raptor 8 or 10 that isn't 6"+ in added overall gun length.

I don’t have a Raptor for comparison, but what I have gathered from the feedback threads is that the OG probably doesn’t have the db reduction of the Raptors.


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[Q_Sertorius]

Anyone have feedback on this suppressor's effectiveness on a 300 win mag or 300Wsm size cartridge? I have a Banish Backcountry on my 30-06 that doesn't quite cut it for my 300 wsm in terms of recoil and sound suppression. I saw that this can survoved torture tested on large 30 cals, but didn't catch any discussion of whether it would be a reasonable choice for 30 cal and magnum cartridges (approx 65+ grains of powder.)

I'm unaware of any effective 30cal magnum suppressor other than the AB Raptor 8 or 10 that isn't 6"+ in added overall gun length.

I don’t have a Raptor for comparison, but what I have gathered from the feedback threads is that the OG probably doesn’t have the db reduction of the Raptors.


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[Formidilosus]

Anyone have feedback on this suppressor's effectiveness on a 300 win mag or 300Wsm size cartridge? I have a Banish Backcountry on my 30-06 that doesn't quite cut it for my 300 wsm in terms of recoil and sound suppression. I saw that this can survoved torture tested on large 30 cals, but didn't catch any discussion of whether it would be a reasonable choice for 30 cal and magnum cartridges (approx 65+ grains of powder.)

I'm unaware of any effective 30cal magnum suppressor other than the AB Raptor 8 or 10 that isn't 6"+ in added overall gun length.

I do not have dB data, but I have used the OG on a 20” 300 win mag and 22” 7PRC for several hundred rounds- no issues. They are still suppressed shots.

 

[Formidilosus]

Given these cans are made with additive manufacturing and lack typical "hard tooling" associated with other manufacturing techniques is there a reason you are not able to order a 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, etc. OG? You can set up the base part number and have dash iterations for each bullet diameter.

In the same vein I was surprised to see a modular end cap on the road map of other printed suppressors, increasing cost and complexity of the can for performance gains that might not be all that noticeable.

Is the slight performance increase of optimizing baffle diameter not worth the extra sku's to keep track of from a logistics standpoint?

Because the reduced bore diameter thing is mostly nonsense. In one of the last can prototypes, the 338 can had lower dB than the 30cal version of same when on the same rifles.

 

[Coleredding00]

Because the reduced bore diameter thing is mostly nonsense. In one of the last can prototypes, the 338 can had lower dB than the 30cal version of same when on the same rifles.

Does changing end caps also seem to have the same result? Going from 30 cal end cap to 22 cal on my 22GT seemed to be a big change, but perhaps it’s confirmation bias.

 

[xrangerx]

Ordered my OG the 11th, shipped yesterday. Currently in Tennessee and I live in Washington, maybe next week,..

 

[Formidilosus]

Does changing end caps also seem to have the same result? Going from 30 cal end cap to 22 cal on my 22GT seemed to be a big change, but perhaps it’s confirmation bias.

No, generally end caps don’t mean much. However, the end cap does have the greatest effect.

 

[Hunter609]

What’s the average wait time for form 3s?

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

What’s the average wait time for form 3s?

I think they said either 3 or 5 days on the podcast.

Misread at first and went to look up the Reddit Forrm 4 and Form 1 data. Think it used to have more entries for the data set but now that timelines are so fast people don't care to submit the info anymore haha.

/r/NFA (Responses)

docs.google.com

 

[Hunter609]

My luck, I’m on 2 weeks waiting.

 

[Hurley88]

The ease of cleaning the Banish 22 is definitely a point in its favor. Rimfire suppressors - like rimfire actions - get absolutely filthy and appear to require regular cleaning. And being able to take that one apart and quickly clean the lead and carbon out of it definitely makes it easier.

I can get behind it not being necessary to clean rifle bores or center fire suppressors - at least in certain climates and circumstances or not at the intervals I was taught as a kid - but I haven’t seen any other manufacturer release a rimfire suppressor that seems this hard to clean.

If the US/UM models really can be safely cleaned by firing a few rounds of .223 through them, that sounds almost too good to be true. I’d really like to see a bit more on the cleaning requirements and recommendations for these models.


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I read up on suppressor cleaning, for centerfire I’ll clean when it’s 2-3oz heavier. Not bc I think there’ll be an issue; it’ll just bother me that it weighs more.

I live in the south and have had bouts with rusted guns in the past. All the metallurgy & coating advancements aside…”neglect leads to rust” has been pounded into me. I don’t clean like I used to, but I’ll never do away with a quick wipe down the bore. It’s just a habit. Likewise with suppressors, I’m just not the guy who’ll put 20k rounds down a suppressor and never touch it…unless it’s only 2oz heavier at that point haha.

Cleaning a sealed 22LR is a different matter, I’d also like to see more info on that…although again, I have no experience and am going off all the guys saying they need it.

 

[Hurley88]

A few pics for anyone interested. 16” with OG compared to a 20”. Last pic adds a 24.3”.

I have two rifles I don’t mess with, all the others get torn apart a lot. I’m setting these up to test weight & balance but for tonight just screwed it all together by hand for the pics.

Any measurements or other angles wanted, just sound off & I’ll get ‘em.

 

[Antares]

Picked up my OG yesterday. Certainly does shorten up my rifle compared to my CGS Hyperion!

18” barrel

 

[Hurley88]

Just got the rifles identically set up, Tikka with 20” barrel and one with 16” using the OG. Same scopes, stocks, everything.

The one with the OG is right at 5.8oz heavier and you can feel that it’s got some more weight at the muzzle. But honesty…in a good way IMO. So for those saying chopping 4” of barrel and swapping to the OG is a 1:1…nope. These stock Tikka barrels are usually around 40oz which is pretty light, so I wasn’t surprised that I didn’t remove 10oz by chopping the barrel.

Not a complaint, just sharing info for those interested. Tbh in general having a slightly more forward balance is a good thing. More control offhand, better balance when using a rest. It’s slight but it’s there, again in a good way. I wouldn’t want an 8” suppressor weighing 16oz in front of the barrel though, that’s for sure. I’d say the OG is just what I’d hoped so far.

 

[Ryan Avery]

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