I understand now. Yea, if a barrel doesn’t shoot, it doesn’t shoot. 4” groups though….. have you checked the assembly and re-checked it?I already had them loaded from when I was trying different things to get the first barrel to shoot. I windowed a duramag and grooved the lower to get to 2.400” max. I fully understand that different jumps won’t make massive differences, that is what has me a little worried about this second barrel. I have never had a rifle shoot 4” groups, not even during break in. If I can not get below 1.5moa, this thing is useless to me. The Shaw 223 barrel was easily 1moa with the 77 tmk, out of the box.